Very large room HT

Used used used... for everything except the processor.

higher end speakers are cheep used and the people that buy them usually keep them well taken care of. save the money! and get better performance at the same time.

two of the larger type subs would work well. you can go new with those if you wish... the usual suspects would work great, svs, hsu , ryhmik.....etc.

can you control the light in the room? if so there is no substitute for a projector (i know you said you have a tv) you can get a real good used on e that is 1080p for CHEAP. make sure you research for the projectors and the screen to match your room.

Amps... that's a hard one, depending on your speakers.. how low the impedance goes, efficiency etc... need to know the speakers first... BUT....
parasound, b&k, anthem all make real good mulichannel amps.

i have a similar room 25' by 25'...dedicated ht, i use half for a billiard table.

my setup is...

110" Stewart filmscreen made for my projector
Sony vpl vw 60 (black pearl)
b&w 802n for the fronts
b&w htm1 center....don't skimp on the center speaker!
b&w 804S for the rears
anthem statement P5 amp
paradigm servo reference 15
marantz av8801 pre amp

send a pm if you have any questions as i do not look onto the forums that much.

Bill

As i read the last few posts i just had to log out from here... then i got to thinking what a bunch of nonsense...

so....
high end audiophile speakers do not do well in "dedicated home theaters?"

only a thx cert means the speaker is good enough for home theater?

monitor speakers and a sub is all most would want in a home theater?

a three d sound???? for monitor audio?

listen.... Go and listen to all the speakers you can... get the ones that sound great to you.

i have a hard time believing that a "audiophile" quality speaker not sounding as good as a speaker just made to stick in a wall. If you want to say that you could get 80% of the performance of an audiophile speaker for a great deal less... Well that has been said in the past and probably is correct.

todays blu ray sound tracks are dynamic not only from natural sounds but also from computer generated ones... by that logic the better a speaker is a REPRODUCING the sounds that they want you to hear...the better.

thx certification is just that, a certification.... that is mother to say that some speakers would be certified if the company sent those speakers in to PAY for the cert.

this is so so tiring...

so you believe in the monitor audio speakers and thousands in cables... maybe you ears are dog ears... i just do not hear a real world difference.....nor in power cables either...

so whatever....

to the OP go and listen 20,000 is a lot of cash... you have many many options. maybe make a post to see who is in your area and willing to let you listen to their system.

i am in daytona each Florida... you are welcome to come by and listen to mine.

Bill

Wine is fine but a good tequillia... heaven..

as far as the "3D sound" i guess i just do no understand what you are saying... a wide sound stage usually refers to how far from one side to the other the speaker sends its sound... and there are specs for that.

but besides that frequency response goes from high to low. low distortion. efficiency. changes things but when it is all said and done a speaker just moves in and out to make sound.

i purchased my speakers used and i believe you would be hard pressed to find any pair of speakers that sound better in that price range, no mater your preference for manufacturers.

just my 2 cents... but then again maybe i am def. i have also bought components that i was told i would notice a night and day difference and i did not hear any difference.

there seems to be a very NOTICEABLE line that yields the biggest differences in sound in HT. once you cross the line only very small changes are noticed if any... again... my experience... have i heard every speaker???? NO... not at all.

Bill

I think we should help the OP by keeping things simple...
maybe we can all agree on a few things and he will have to go from there....my experiences and opinions are somewhat different than yours and the next guy and so on...

1) at a price point of 20,000, we are way beyond the HT in a box.
2) speakers have classes just like cars do... you cannot FAIRLY compare a $1,000 speaker with a $5,000 speaker. and so on.
3) There IS a law of diminishing returns with home theater speakers and equipment. Is the OP going for a 90% awesome system or is he chasing after the last 10% of perfection?
4) even with room correctioncorrection... the best speakers/systems will not sound as good as a lower end system in a decent acusticly made room.
5) it seems that we are on the same page as far as saving the money and buying used
6) there are different ways to go about the idea of reproducing sound... electrostatic, ribbon tweeters, dome tweeters, and all the materials for them... people prefer different ones... it doesn't mean one is better than the other, just different.
7) it would be impossible for the OP to listen to all the speaker and amp and processor combinations in his listening room.. so he would still need to go and listen to speakers, even though they will be in acusticly different rooms.

if we can agree on these items at least the OP has a place to start.

Bill