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I've been running Verity Parsifal Encores for some time now. I love the speakers, but have been wondering what I can do to take them to the next level of completeness. The obvious is enhancing bass, but I don't want to detract from the rest of the wonderful speaker (IMO). Has anyone mated a sub to these speakers? How? What are your thoughts and opinions on doing this?

I can either spend some $$$ and get the Sarastros, or I can add a sub and see how she goes... Let me know your thoughts, advice or experienced opinion.

I have Shindo Corton Charlemagne 80 amps, Shindo Masseto pre, a Levinson 390S CD, and TW Acustic Raven AC TT.

Many thanks!
hatari

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Hi Dave_b
the Current Web_site has not carried Users' Manual of
Parsifal Encore, nor they have those detailed Users' manual
on web, they only accompanied packing.

I have looked up my User Manual, the file was dated
July 2001, and there was one whole page explaining
the fine, detailed, fast, sensitiveness of the drivers.
and also one page with Heading
" Using Low Power Tube Amplication "
I quoted " ...mid-sensitivity 89db @ 1W @ 1 meter.....
In an average room of 1500 cubic ft., 10 watts of amplication could get 94 db SPL. which is the time-average
spectra level for a theatre organ or a bass drum. For those who enjoy realistic playback levels, it is normally
sufficient."

"We took special care to makethe low frequency impedance-curve more easy to drive for low-power amprefiers. the lowest impedance presented by the P/encore is it DC resistance of 4.0 ohms; at its tuning frequency of 30HZ and up to 100Hz the mean impedance is bout 65. ohms, having the lowest point at 4.0ohms..... the monitor, when used a lone, at nominal impedance of 8.0 ohms, out design
is to adjust the overall frequency balance. typically , a good setup could use as little as a 20-watt amplifier in an average or lively listening room of 2,000 cu.ft."
we tried several low-power amplifier with Parsifal and
got very good result "

Hi Hatari
my room is (ft) 25 x 15 x 9 H,but I am placing the Parsifal
Back-firing at the longer wall... , not near to the side wall atl all ; actually Low bass is
less than with tehm against the shorter wall..nearer to the side wall.
I am well familiar with the Fibonacci's nos. applied in too many aspects of life, so they are just 59 inches (
membrance of mid/tweeter to rear wall ).

I repeated, friends using much more power Amps than mine
mine more higher grade ( & size ) speakers than Parsifal
has come and listen... for the parsifal as well as the
"legendary" Siltech /emperor G6 Satt Jumpers I used on them
none of them has claimed the parsifal played with my
"average" quality in their mind, Canary CA303 mono-block
300B power amp (only 26 watt )lack of any bass , at folk, rock, large scale symphonies.
I used 300B Pwer amp to drive my Parsifal encores with no
difficlties, good and clear bass , controlled just right
( which previously for mezzo utopia was a failure ).
wonder why some had experience problem of lacking bass ???
do you mean "using only the Parsifal Monitors ???

For exisitng " Encore" users, I just discovered by chance
that for some 3-4 years, BDR has been tailor-making
special BDR Shelves for Parsifal, exactly fit for
replacing the Granite. If not upgrading to the Metal
Platform of "ovation", this is a good up-grade.
I just bought a pair last week, feeling "worth-buying".
Look up if your dealers around have these.
Hi, FrankC
I 've found the Parsifal Encore very esaily to drive,
( as I sold my mezzo Utopia at once after trying Parsifal ,
My previous mistake to use 300B S.E. with Utopia, then I changed to Canary CA303 (2 x 300B P-P,manual stating 26 Watts, I stay with 300B always;
still cannot control the Utopia's bass )

after switching to Parsifal, everything is perfect
( at least perfect to me, and loved by my other audiophile
friends too ). It can handle well large sound stage
like playing Carmen Habenera Fantasia; Hungarian Rhasody;
Symphonie Fantastique op.14, " New World" etc. as well as
fine detailed strings & guitars.

I came across the BDR Platform by chance, with the Leaflets/attachments in the packing, it seems it is
a line already developed, especially they made the size
(though about 0.1-0.15 mm smaller than the granite )
the tilt edge, ( sloping edge ) and all corners are fitting
as the granite, except you can see the horizontal lines
on the sides ( BDR put a label at the bottom, stating this
No.has tiny cosmetic flaws, as they are not polishing,
or covering the sloping sides further )

I bought them ( sh be much more expensiver then the Verity
Ovation Platform, I think ) It is priced USD 705.- /pair.
they supplied ten Damping pads.
I don't mind the cost as I really love my Parsifal very
much. I 've then purchased more 6pcs BDR Mk 4 cones to
my Dual Mono Block Pre-amp, they make improvements too.
I am goint to buy 6 pcs more ( But Mk 3 ) for the 2 chassis of Power supply of the Pre-amp next week.

If you are also using Parsifal,the kind that bi-wiring is
not to consider, and as they have the cross-over/filter ( I don't know the exactness , is for the speaker signals to
pass thru the low range unit first, then with jumpers to
deliver to the monitors. I had tried with
XLO Limited Ed. , audio Notes Sogon Jumpers, but I finally
selected Siltech's Emperor G6 SATT Jumpers, expensive
but I have used them for more than 2 years now, I am sill
happy with this "good buy". Never " good-bye" to Parsifal and these Emperor Jumpers, I think.
Friends that would not beleive
such "wrongly_priced- one friend claimed, came to my house
with numerous jumpers they had used, all agreed with
my decision. If "Emperor" is too expensive, one may try
"eskay" I hope, as siltech's nature fit Parsifal's
or other speaker of high definition too ;the utmost fine resolution, a sound with "grace". If you say "not natural"
I have no word to fight back. I buy them to please myself
never consider to stay dry, dull, just clean.
I even said many times, if one day I shall meet one
"used / re-selling" Siltech Emperor 8 ft sp cable( good
condition ) I will take them in, though it costs more than
the parsifal. ( the Jumpers gave me the confidence that
this speakerscable must be for lifetime keeping.
Hi Gundam91

are U using BDR Mk4 cones on the woofer units of
Parsifal, with "screw-rod" they supply ??
and with BDR " pits" the exact name I forgot, benneath ???

If you have proved them o.K. I may add those too.
Gundam91

Having the separate-units placed, I worry a little the safety if the cones are just placed underneath, espically only 3 pcs , but with 4, one must use screwing post to adj.

I have been using the Brass foot supplied by Verity, to protect the floor from their fine Pointed tips, I had tried
with Woods like ebony & padouk 3-4 inches squares, but later I used "Linn" skeet(s), the sound was O.K., and the
holes of those skeet are best fit for those pointed tips
that they can sit so firmly and tightly so that moving slightly the speakers need no extra effort.

I may try the BDR cones, if I check there is screw-post both fitting the woofers of Parsifal and the cones.

thanks for your input.
Hi, all of you
Please accept my poor english as well as my typing skill

on previous post of Parsifal's manual

" amplication" sh be amplification
" monitor...at a nominal impedance of 8.0 Ohms, OUR design
( not " out design " )
tehm sh be " them" in " with them standing agains the
shorter wall.... may be too many mistakes
not to post, is better !!!!!!!!!