Veritas Cables a new brand that I found


Always been a big fan of smaller cable makers. I've had great luck in my system with brands like Audio Art, Cabledyne (RIP), Audio Sensibility, and Triode Wire Labs. These and others I'm surely forgetting seem to offer so much bang for the buck compared to the more mainstream brands. Not exactly cheap but usually a great value for what you get. It's noteworthy that most of these are most easily found by cruising Audiogon, US Audio Mart, Audiocircle, etc and if you only ever read Stereophile/TAS you'll probably never be exposed to all these great options. 

As with most people around here I've also had my fair share of Audioquest, Kimber, Shunyata, Cardas, Wireworld, MIT, and the rest of the big names. Some of those were very enjoyable but I have a hard time when I think about how big their marketing budgets are. And when my local dealer will always give me a deal for a very substantial discount, it makes me realize how inflated the regular pricing is. Not to mention I notice that many of these don't really get good until you move fairly high up the line, with their entry and mid priced options often being pretty uninspiring.

A few weeks ago I was browsing the various classifieds as I often do and stumbled across a name that was new to me. Turns out that's because they are new, period. Veritas Cables calls themselves a boutique hifi cable company specializing in small batch creations. That sounds reminiscent of early Black Cat Cable which they actually reference as an inspiration. This immediately caught my attention as I used to work with Chris Sommovigo at one point and loved his approach to building cables. The company had 3 items listed at the time: RCA interconnects, a power cable, and an ethernet cable. I liked what I saw but was actually in the market for an XLR interconnect, so I checked out their website (still under construction) which indicated more cables were coming soon. I figured it was worth an email inquiry to see what the time frame might be. 

I got a quick response stating that they had just completed a batch of XLR cables and while most were spoken for via local word of mouth sales, they did have one extra set they could sell me. The price was well within my target and actually much more affordable than the others I had been looking at (Audio Art Copper Cryo, Morrow Audio MA6,  Silnote Anniversary being the main contenders). So I took a chance on it, although with their in home trial terms it wasn't a huge gamble. They sent over an invoice with paypal and due to Veritas being in California like me the cable arrived very quickly.

When the company told me they don't use any fancy packaging, they weren't kidding. It was more like buying a second hand cable off a forum with no original packaging. But I've never cared about any of that stuff and would rather have that money go towards the actual product. In that sense I was not disappointed. Veritas calls this their Magnus cable and it shares design cues with the rest of their line I had seen listed on USAmart and the Veritas website. Specifically that means the use of a metallic silver braided jacket instead of the usual plastic or fabric sleeving most other cables have. This is the same approach used by Ed Bowman with his Cabledyne brand which I miss dearly. Back in the day my entire system was Cabledyne Reference Silver, then upgraded to their Vanguard line and was happy with that for quite a while. So I am very pleased to reintroduce a similar looking cable. That said the Veritas Magnus is somewhat thicker yet more flexible than the Cabledyne models which makes it easier to deal with.

Veritas doesn't come right out and list exactly what the internal composition is on their designs. When I asked directly they were happy to answer so it's not a complete secret, but I guess more of a marketing choice. Discussing this with them also reminded me of chatting with Ed Bowman, where there is clearly a lot of knowledge but also a desire to simplify things for a dumb end user like me. I tend to agree with their philosophy that says silver doesn't always have to sound bright and copper isn't always warm. Designers can do a lot based on geometry and purity and shielding and a dozen other factors to where a silver cable might actually be warmer and smoother than a copper cable. Or a copper cable might be more focused on speed and treble extension. Honestly I don't care as much about the specifics as I do about the end result, just give me an excellent performing cable no matter what it's made of. 

In any case to my eyes the Veritas Magnus looks every bit as well made as the other options I had been considering. Those range from $630 for the Audio Art, to $1250 for the Morrow, to $1500 for the Silnote, all for 1.5m XLR versions just to give you a general idea. Meanwhile the Magnus was $389 which is almost what I would call entry level territory with the price of cables being what it is these days. 

 So far I've been using the Magnus to connect my Eversolo DMP-A8 to a variety of tube and SS headphone amplifiers in the $2-5k range, then feeding the amazing Raal Requisite CA-1a ribbon headphones via the Raal transformer box. It's a pretty simple system and this is the only interconnect involved, making it easier to spot the contributions versus a system with separate transport, DAC, preamp, and amplifier and of course cables running between each of them.

The sound I heard was shockingly open, clean, detailed, and smooth. Huge staging with impressive depth and even height on the right recordings. Very convincing tone on violins, guitars, and vocals both male and female. The Raal headphones are pretty ruthless and reveal all sorts of upstream shortcomings, but I got the feeling I was bouncing up against the limits of the DMP-A8 D/A conversion rather than the cable/amp/headphones. I'll test this out soon when I switch to my bigger system with a better/more expensive DAC, and I'll report my findings when I have some thoughts on that.

Checking my cable collection for things with a vaguely similar price as the Magnus. I rounded up a Harmonic Tech Truth Link, Analysis Plus Copper Micro, Anticables 3.1, and Moon Audio Black Dragon, all of which sold for somewhere in the sub $500 space (I think) at some point in the last decade. It was no contest, the Veritas Magnus outclassed them all by a significant margin. These are all decent cables with something to offer which is why I keep them around in my stash, but compared to the Veritas they all sounded either dull, thin, slow, compressed, or some combination of those traits. I also note that each of them looks and feels like more of a budget product (which I guess they are) where the Veritas Magnus seems like it belongs in an entirely higher class despite the price not reflecting that.

My next goal is to compare it to some others in my arsenal priced around the $1K range. So far, from memory I would say it feels very competitive even in that class, but I want to be more specific about it so no comments for now. The crazy thing is that Veritas told me they have another XLR option (didn't catch the name or other specifics) positioned higher than the Magnus, for what is likely still a pretty reasonable price considering their approach to the market. All of those were spoken for at the time but did ask to be notified when the next batch is ready so we can discuss that. I had been considering the Infigo Audio Sparkle or maybe even Sparkle Signature XLR down the road but I might detour to the Veritas instead, just for the sake of adventure. But that depends on the pricing and specifics they give me, if and when we have that discussion. I'm also curious about their power cables or maybe a USB down the line. Sometimes when cable companies try to do everything, they bite off more than they can chew, or seem to excel with digital rather than analog or vice versa. So it would be interesting to see if Veritas can do the full line of cables to this same high caliber.

In closing I'll say (and it's probably obvious) that I'm extremely impressed with this product so far. It's the most dramatic result I've had from a cable in quite some time, and I appreciate that it didn't involve spending thousands of dollars. The folks at Veritas really seem to be on the right track in terms of quality and value. Which is not to be confused with being very good at marketing a product, which honestly they don't really seem to be, nor do they seem to even care all that much at the moment. They definitely have some improvement to do when it comes to optimizing their operation, but they told me their focus is on organic growth and quality over quantity. That seems like a noble approach so I can't fault them for it. Their website also could really use more specifics but at least they answer emails quickly and are easy to deal with that way.

I'll be back in the next week or so with additional updates. Maybe some downsides will present themselves. But so far it's been a totally positive experience. Next up is my bigger system with more expensive components and cables, we'll see how the Magnus holds up in that context. 

 

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I was interested in the regular Aperta to replace my old JPS Labs Superconductor that is starting to fall apart. It comes highly recommended by some online audio friends. I emailed Veritas and they said the Aperta SE is being posted to the website in the next day or two. Since the price is not that different I might wait to get the top SE model instead.

I just did an order for the Aperta SE speaker cables. They will go in my 2nd system to see how they compare with my JPS Superconductors. I will update once they arrive and I get some listening time on them.

The Aperta SE speaker cables arrived a few days ago. I installed them in place of some JPS Labs Superconductors that I've had for years. Immediate improvement in sound. Also the build is easily much nicer than the JPS.

I am burning them in now. Even if they don't change one bit, I am already really impressed. These are keepers for me. 

I have about 50 hours on the Aperta SE so far, it is opening up nicely. They already sound far better than the JPS Labs they are replacing. 

@lak Thank you I was curious about how much difference there is between the two models. Could you imagine a scenario where the original Aperta might still be a better choice? Like how sometimes a duller or less resolving cable can help tame an overly bright system? Or is it pretty cut and dry just an upgrade across the board? 

Sorry you may not have enough time with the SE yet to answer this question. 

@lak Thank you that is helpful info. I'm glad I went with the Aperta SE but I am also tempted to pick up one of their demo sets of the original Aperta for another little system I'm setting up.

Looks like they allow a 30 day trial even on the demo models so I can just try it out and see how they compare.

@lak Thank you. I am strongly considering trying those out in a different system just for an alternate take. 

Meanwhile my Aperta SE is still opening up. I have about 150 hours on them and things are sounding wonderful. 

That is welcome news and might be enough to sway me towards their top model network cable. I want to explore replacing my Transparent ethernet cable which is decent but I've never really loved it. I have some other things to sort out first so this upgrade won't be for a few months, nice to know pricing will remain by then.

My Nexum A AES/EBU cable just arrived yesterday and so far I am blown away by how nice it is. Anyone else have one of these and if so can you advise on burn in time? 

I let the Nexum A digital cable burn in for a couple hundred hours by now, and it is sounding even better than it did out of the box. Really excellent cable, blowing away my previous reference which is a Kimber Orchid I've been using for years. I don't know how many people still use AES compared to USB, but if you do I would recommend the Nexum A. 

Still need to write up my thoughts about the Aperta SE speaker cables when I get a chance. 

I'm back to post my thoughts on the Aperta SE speaker cables. By now I've got hundreds of hours on them and I feel like I know them well. This is not in my main system but in a spare bedroom. I use a Hegel H400 all in one that does streaming, D/A conversion, and integrated amp. Speakers are the Lawrence Audio Violin SE. Prior to the Aperta SE I used an older set of JPS Labs Superconductors. I always loved the sound but they were starting to really fall apart physically. I don't know why, never seen a cable do that before. 

The Aperta SE ended up being a major upgrade over the Superconductors. Much more open and clear up top, not bright at all just better. The best way to describe would be how back in the day I upgraded from the original Lawrence Violin speakers to the Violin SE. The new model swapped out the ribbon driver for a new AMT driver design, and added another rear firing tweeter for more spacious sound. It really felt like a worthwhile improvement without taking away anything I loved so much on the original speakers. Changing from the JPS Labs cables to the Veritas Aperta SE felt like almost as big of an improvement.

I would characterize the Aperta SE as being mostly neutral but maybe just a little on the warm side. Not enough to unbalance the presentation, just a welcome touch of richness that would make nine out of ten systems sound better than pure neutral. It is a very resolving sound though. I think if your system isn't up to it you might do better with the regular Aperta instead of the SE version. 

I also had a new Straightwire Crescendo 3 to try out and I thought that was a great cable as well. It made a nice upgrade over my JPS Labs, did a lot right and very little wrong. I would be really pleased with that for the price if I had not heard the Aperta SE do even better for less than half as much money. Both are incredibly well built and look like they should last decades. Which I appreciate after seeing the Superconductors unravel. I sent the Crescendos back and happily kept the Aperta SE, it is that good. Won't mention the other speaker cables I've tried over the past year which could not beat the Superconductors even though they also cost double or triple the money.

That's my experience with the Aperta SE. Again really impressed and will be using Veritas for more cables in the future. 

 

@tksteingraber I have the Aperta SE and I feel like they took forever to break in. At least in my system. I was told around 100 hours which seemed about right for the Nexum A digital cable I have. I just feel like the Aperta SE takes way longer than that. 

Maybe I'm crazy. I've always felt speaker cables seem to continue changing long after interconnects are pretty well settled. Even when I added both at the same time so they have identical hours. 

I'd say give them more time and I bet you hear an improvement like I did. 

@tksteingraber No argument there, guilty as charged! I really didn't keep track of hours but I want to say it was several months of pretty extensive listening before mine really took shape. That sounds insane when I do the math and figure it might be 500-1000 hours since most days they are playing the majority of the day. I've seen other cable threads here where people swear a cable needs that many hours and I always thought it was nuts. Still do in most cases. Now I'd say there might be a few exceptions like the Aperta SE.

I think they always sounded pretty great from brand new. Burning them in brought out more impact and depth the the bass. Fine inner detail was easier to pick out.  Highs maybe a little more clear. Most importantly for me, they started sounding more anchored in the room, not just open but convincing as to each performer being in the right space. I use Duevel omni speakers and this part is very important to me. Lots of other cables get the technical foundation right but fail this part. I'm probably not describing it very clearly, sorry.

@ampus I don't think he mentioned the bass response declining after burn in. Just that part was never very impressive to him. I do feel my bass started strong and also got quite a bit better with time. Not overbearing though, just more realistic or natural I guess.  

 

@grannyring Sorry I'm new here, did you have a brand name for your cables? Or more just a DIY fun thing? Either way you clearly know your stuff, so your high praise of the Veritas designs goes a long way.