Vapor Cirrus Black vs dc10 Berlin Studio Monitor

95SPL not possible??
The Berlin uses a hand fabricated internal resonator an actual innovation unlike most today along with a horn shaped port hand turned heirloom wood where did you study physics? It is possible!

As for the Aurum products do you actually know of a better product?; is it Morel? NOT! shoddy assembly! Seas Not! mechanical symmetry not as good! USA? do you make a driver?? The drivers are picked by sonics they also modify their tweeter and kiln fire their own inductors.
Bashing is fine especially once a real understanding has been obtained.

If you add up the actual cost of the two speakers I believe the dc10audio product would cost more to manufacture (side note audiotech makes car speakers for fosgate in china vapors port tube which is plastic comes from Parts Express?) dc10 manufactures it own cabinets using the most expensive plywood in the world from Italy on the Instrument and the current 8PS Why they might source a cabinet for the Berlin surly the solid milled tone-wood baffle along with an artisan turned solid tone-wood horn must cost more that the small ply cabinet that Vapor makes for the black (Does Vaper uses a plastic port from Parts Express??) add to this the three innovations and the intellectual property thereof (Vapor has zero innovation just a nice cab with some fair to very good drivers) Bottom line as I've owned both dc10 and vapor products Vapor sounds like a lot of current products out there the dc10audio sounds like alien tech and i bet has some in the industry a little nervous as they should be..innovation is not sticking woofers and tweeters in a nice box we've had that for 50 years already. Last note: I own older dc10audio 8 PS speakers that use Usher 8" drivers just like Wilson audio used to use for years only unlike the Wison's 86 SPL my constantly read 94 SPL.
dc10audio you rock!

Rumor from RMAF The president of KONDO in Japan thought the dc10audio / tektron room had the best sound of the entire show. the 2 watt tektron amp drove the speakers with great dynamics and perfect tone mainly piano!! What would the Vapor produce with 2 watts?

After looking into the amp chosen at RMAF 2 watt tektron for dc10 Berlin it's clear you don't get it ...The amp is important too it tells the speaker who it will be... Play Raidho, Vapor, magico and Berlin with 22 SET watts or 100+ SS and I'll bet you a pair of raidho's the Berlin will kill them on every level..Magico's mini betters Raidho and Berlin kills Magico.. At least the Magico has heroic construction worthy of 28K Raidho is worth 8K the extra 12K is pure cannabis smoke. IMHO

nice mention of dc10audio here http://www.stereophile.com/content/robyatt-audio%E2%80%99s-analog-haven Powered the Berlin with 2 watts!!!!!

When I walked into the Robyatt Audio room, I discovered that Robin Wyatt had come all the way from New York City to show people what a lovely, airy sound he could get from Jacintha’s “Here’s to Life” and other LP selections. “The man who recorded that LP used the same stereo Miyajima Kinsui cartridge that I’m using for playback,” he explained.

Wyatt, as I soon discovered, is an expert on the sound of tables, arms, and cartridges. Amidst 1001 questions from avid attendees, addressed in detail by Wyatt, I gave up trying to listen further to the system. There was no literature, but as best as I can discern from my notes, we were enjoying the show debut of the dc10audio Berlin loudspeakers ($6500/pair), which feature a horn tweeter. The remainder of the system consisted of a Tektron integrated amp ($3950) that features switchable output tubes, Tektron phono stage with Miyajima step-ups, VPI Classic 4 turntable with a custom tonearm wand from Miyajima, and Tel Wire cabling. I regret that there wasn’t time to linger until the discussion subsided and Wyatt played more music, because the sound was so good.

Sorry english not my first language.

rebbi no stake ..really why are you here then spending your free time posting I own a 12K pair of dc10 speakers..You just killing some time...Vapor1

This is from stereophile blog sound like vaporware to me.

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Other Speaker Brands Bashing..... dc10audio??
Submitted by bachMan on October 29, 2012 - 8:51am.

It seems some in the industry are a little worried about this tiny Company dc10audio as aliases known to works for two other brands both showing on the same floor 4th floor as dc10audio continue to Bash the company on agon and here. We've heard from the experts that the room was one of the best at the entire show and even greats in the amplifacation business such as Kondo and Rogue said it was one of the best rooms.....Oh yeah, these guys don't make speakers! Are the other brands worried that dc10 is doing something new? Grow up boys take a chance and invent something...dc10audio did and guess what it works VERY WELL!

Peter

rebbi, jp1208, and vapor 1 same poster.. What's Vapor worried about? Are some innovations cramping his box-o-drivers style???

Hello,
As I posted earlier I owned dc10 8PS loudspeakers for nearly 3 years now and am a big fan I've bought and resold Berlin and Berlin mini B stock on Audiogon and currently have a new pair for sale on Audiogon but I am not a dealer I sell 100's of audio equipment on ebay and Audiogon I already said that before on the thread.

I did not make it to RMAF this year but you bet I will next year!

Carl S

I am posting because I am excited about this product... I've been buying and collecting audio gear for over 40+ years. Has anyone actually look into their patents and significance of the horn ported tweeter or the toned wood resonator. These are unique and a breath of fresh air in a world of the same stuff over and over again.