Vandy 2Ce Signature Vs. Vandy 2Ce

Folks! I've owned Vandys 1ce and the more power I've throuwn on to them the the more sound they gave. They like the high current as well since their impedance varies between 2 and 6 ohms. Vandys 2ce have the same load characteristics with extra driver and crossover. I've auditioned them to upgrade my 1ce and in the same setup with Rogue88 1ce sounded more dynamic and open. 2ce had their mids backed up or "hidden" inside their towers. Bass??? He..He... almost none. Now what's wrong in setup: Basis 1600? Benz Ruby2? Phonomena, AE3 or Rogue88?
I can say that 1ce can often sound better in the same setup than 2ce and 2ce sigs all together.

In responce to Maxgain's negative comments reference Richard Vandersteen and his company, I couldn't disagree more. I've owned different models of his speakers going on 18 years and have had nothing but positive conversations with him, both over the telephone or in person at CES. He and his company are extremely well respected and liked by customers and dealers alike. At CES I saw a sales rep displaying $20,000.00 speakers in his suite talking with Richard at his audio suite about the Vandersteen model speakers the rep owned. Richard is not a snake oil salesman or flash in the pan designer. His products pass the test of time and reproduce music in a natural way that very few other designers can at anywhere near their respective price ranges. Maxgain, I'm sorry to hear you feel so negative about Richard Vandersteen and you did not describe you incident with him but I can asure you that you that he is an excellent designer and family man.

I second the comments regarding the alleged dificulties of driving 2Cs. My 2Cis go as loud as I could want with a 45 watt CJ tube amp and sound great.

Has anyone had a chance to compare the 2Ce sig in combo with one or two 2WQs against the 3A sig, with no 2WQ? The 2WQ supposedly does a nice job of improving the mid range so I was just wondering as that combo is a bit less than the 3A sig (or a bit more if we are talking the 2ce with 2 2WQs.

I would expect the base to go deeper with the 2 combo and the treble on the 3A sig to still be better of course but what about midbase, midrange, imaging, etc. Has anyone done a comparison?

I see reference to a Model 1C on the Vandersteen web site. What is a "1ce", exactly? After all, the site specifies a model 2Ce Signature. Why wouldn't they do the same for the "1ce"?

I ask to find out if there is a newer version of the 1C to purchase, and to make sure you actually know what speaker you are talking about.

Thanks.

...that's right 1ce is a newer model of 1C.