Vandersteen Treo vs 3A Sig as upgrade

If one runs the Treo full range, a sub will not correct what the OP describes.

Shakey

Agree also. Your hearing takes a toll when riding without ear protection. No way around it.

Shakey

I don't think it's a question of bass quantity, but of quality. If the OP doesn't care for this aspect, well that's that. No matter how much you wish it so, not everyone is going to like the Treos.

Shakey

There you have it. If you high pass the Treos, they will not be running full range. Which is what I said in the first place. This can be done with any speaker.

Which is exactly my point. This isn't a discussion of the Treos specifically, but this could apply to any full range speaker that you choose to NOT run full range.

Shakey

I used to ride an HD Streetglide. I had a custom stereo in the batwing fairing.

Alpine CDP with USB input
JL Audio Coaxial speakers
JL Audio 5 channel amp and subwoofer in the right saddlebag

Sounded damn good sitting still. Very good at slow speeds, and loud enough to discern @ 80 mph.

Shakey

I am out of my league? I have probably owned more high end speakers in one year than you have in your life...... different story, different day.

The OP describes the bass as "thud, thud". He DOES mention quality, not only quantity.

I don't have a sub. Don't really need one.

I am not bashing the Treos, nor any other Vandersteen speaker. My commment could be applied to ANY high end speaker.

If anyone on this site is "wondering" about me, they shouldn't waste their time contacting you about it. I am available for such questions.

Wluke, I hope you find a speaker you like. If you have a better audition of the Treos and they are the one, I am happy. If that happens to be another model, still happy.

Good luck.

Shakey

The fact remains that if the bass quality of any speaker is in question, you will not change that characteristic by adding a subwoofer unless you filter out the frequencies that are the problem from the main speakers. Just because the connectivity of the 2Wq is different than other subs, does not negate that fact.

That is all I am saying. I am not being negative about the Treos. I just maintain that if you correct the issue the OP describes, you will NOT be running the Treo full range.

That said, if you are completely happy with the bass your main speakers have and just want to add more extension, that's easier. This is NOT the case presented by Wlutke. So high passing the Treo is necessary.

Again, for the last time, I am not disparaging the Treo or it's performance. I am just pointing out that the sub won't make the bass performance of the Treo better, it will just replace it's bass with that of the sub, eliminating the need for the Treo to produce low bass. This may sound great, and I am not saying it won't. But you haven't suddenly made the bass QUALITY of the Treo any better.

Shakey

I admit I can be very "passionate" sometimes. But let's not forget that we all share a common interest after all is said and done.

Shakey

" I'm saving up for and will buy as soon as I get a fair offer on my new Treo's,"

Don't you have to actually list them for sale before you can get an offer?

Shakey

Little touchy are we?

You make a statement in the thread and I ask a question. Don't be so regimented, after all, this is just an audio forum. It's not life or death.

Shakey

Duly noted.......;-}}