VAC Owners:Outboard Phono Stage?


I'm contemplating my next upgrade. Thought you guys could help.

I spin mostly vinyl. I have a great analogue front end that feeds a VAC Standard LE pre and VAC PHI 200 amp, both of which I love. The MC stage on the pre is really good, but a little noisy (hiss). Kevin is sending me new 12AX7s that Brent will test for very low noise at the VACtory. Those guys just rock!

My question, however, is how much do I need to spend on an outboard MC phono stage if I want a significant upgrade to the already wonderful sound of the built-in stage?

I know, why don't I just enjoy the wonderful sound? Because it's upgrade time, baby! There will always be a next level (we really need a 12 step group for this hobby).

I'm looking at the Zesto Andros ($3900), the Herron VTPH-2 ($3700), and possibly the new Manley Chinook ($2200).

Ideally, I could audition these in my system, but the nearest dealer is far away, so I'll have to order one.

Any thoughts are welcome. Thanks,
Alón (no, not Wolf)
alonski

Showing 3 responses by hifimaniac

I own the VAC Signature II with phono and have been pleased with the sound of it. I have owned the Audio Research PH-7 and the EAR solid state 324. The ear is more dynamic than the Audio Research and Kevin's but I have grown to love the fluidity and musicality of VAC's phono. Kevin prefers analog to digital for his listening so you must believe he is taking the time to design a more than satisfactory internal phono. I did swap out my 12AX7's for the Psvane version. The Black Treasure from Shuguang and Psvane tube are made in the same factory and are very similar. I found the Psvane to be quieter and smoother than Kevin's stock phono tubes. I also swapped out the input tubes on his Phi 200 with the Black Treasure 6SN7's and prefer that subtle change. Check out the Tube Store for the Black Treasures. I also can confirm Kevin Haye's support; always generous with his time, input, advice and always honest as the day is long!
I was pulled into the Zesto room last January at T.H.E. Las Vegas by the designer George and his wife Carolyn and truly enjoyed their phono. If you are looking for a very smooth, musical phono this one is incredible for the money. I remembered leaving thinking this unit was far more musical than my ARC PH-7 and anyone who purchased it would not be wanting for anything else; it draws you into the music. I have heard it now on three other occasions and haven't changed my opinion. Great value for the money.
Hey Alonski you put a huge smile on my face the way you described your first listen to the Signature 2a; I was the same way. It crushed my ARC REF 5! I had to put on a Lobster bib to catch my drool! I have to tell you I heard the Statement preamp and phono at CES and before I did I was thinking to myself, "how much better could this be". Trust me, it is UNBELIEVABLE! Everything the Sig 2a does this does better and effortlessly. Anyone looking for a pre amp that doesn't consider the Statement is nuts. I hope I make some money again so I can buy one someday. The Statment Phono was killer too. You should see if there are pictures on the web site of the inside; the build is meticulous; the sound better. Kevin told me it is hard for him to listen to the Sig after creating the Statement. He also told me I need to move up the amp line to really enjoy greater sound. I still don't know why Kevin doesn't get more accolades his stuff is so much better than the other tube stuff out there. Until I upgrade I will enjoy the superb sound of the stuff I own.
Kevin recommended 1960 era Phillips 7308's for the 6922's but said to be sure you buy from a reputable tube seller and expect to pay a lot. Be sure I have the right brand; I am pretty sure it is the Phillips. He may have suggestions for the 12AX7's but I purchases Psvane 12AX7's from Grant Fidelity. Buy Gran'ts best quality; they do some extra testing to be sure of quality. I find them very quiet and musical. Again, enjoy. And Knghifi, you are right; Kevin doesn't sell out to reviewers; his character and integrity is too high to do so.