VAC 70/70 mk3 tube rolling question


I recently purchased a VAC 70/70 mk3 s. Where can I find more information about the tubes diagram for the amp? I know it uses two 6sn7 per channel. Are there any differences in functionality between the two 6sn7 used for each channel? For example, do I need to use a matching pair of 6sn7 per channel?

I have one matched pair of RCA red base 6sn7 and a matched pair of Raytheon vt231 6sn7. The RCA are good for lush mids with 3d soundstage and Raytheon vt231are good for speed and accuracy.

They were meant to be used for the Schiit freya plus which uses a pair of 6sn7 for output stage and another pair of 6sn7 for voltage gain stage. Now since I already get a VAC renaissance 5 preamp, I am wondering if I can use my two pairs of 6sn7 on the VAC 70/70 amp.

My question is can I use one RCA + one Rayheon vt231 for each channel of the VAC? Or should I use a matched pair of 6sn7 for each channel? What are the recommended settings?

Also, any experiences about tube rolling on the VAC 70/70 mk3 are welcome. Like which 300B amps or 6sn7 combinations give you the best results.
yuhengdu_tiger

Showing 8 responses by lowrider57

Correct, V1,V2 for left channel.
V3,4 for rt. channel.

Sorry, I can't help identify which is gain and which is driver. Hopefully a VAC owner will chime in.
But, designers like to keep things organised, so I would guess that the gains are V1 and V4. Or they could be V2 and V3.

Have you looked for a user manual online?

Interesting and valuable info.

The RCA red base is a 5692 which requires less voltage. But it's good to hear VAC is ok with running all versions of the 6SN7.

Use matched set of Rca, matched set Raytheon.

The input circuitry of the Renaissance Seventy/Seventy is derivative of the unique Williamson circuit, which provides pure, direct coupled, inherently balanced input amplification and phase splitting. Type 6SN7/5692 octal twin triodes do the honors.

https://skyfiaudio.com/products/vac-valve-amplification-company-renaissance-seventy-seventy-70-70-du...



@roxy54 
Almarg is no longer a tube guy, no more VAC. Can you believe it?
Of course, his wisdom is always welcome.
@roxy54 ,, 
Oh yes, I was agreeing with you.

I wish Al all the best, he is sorely missed on the forum. My thoughts go out to him for a speedy recovery.

One pair 6SN7 are for the gain stage, the 2nd pair are the phase inverters.
Example; RCA L, R gain stage.
Raytheon L, R phase inversion (drivers for output tubes)


Good luck, @yuhengdu_tiger . You have a beautiful amp. And your 2 sets of tubes should work well together.
🤞 fingers crossed.