Upgrading Wadia 170i IDoc to new 171 IPod dock


I have owned for about a year now the first Wadia 170i IPod dock and the $280 ICAudio upgraded power supply and lastly am using the Kimber illuminations D60 cable going to my DAC, which is actually a Cambridge AZURE 840C CD player. my question is has anybody upgraded to the latest 171i IPod dock and was it worth it? My current setup using lossless files sounds pretty good, but not quite as good as a CD. So please, with my current configuration and your experience with the new dock, is it worth the investment - Thanks!
Rpg
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Interesting Kbarkamian, maybe you received a defective unit a 170i correct? Mine has worked flawlessly for a year without having the problems you mention other than a number of the keys on the remote do nothing at all. I guess I should consider myself lucky, maybe the upgraded power supply over the little wall-wart had something to do with it. Yes, much looking forward to anybody that has the new dock compared to the old. Thanks for your feedback as well the rest.
Rpg
Each of the four members of my family that enjoy our system has a third generation iPod touch, just maybe, it happens to be this model of iPod works best with the Wadia? Still hope someone who reads this thread has the latest Wadia, really interested in their feedback.
Rpg
I should add when I first mentioned "not sounding as good as CD" to sounds slightly different than the CD. In fact, there are some areas such as the bottom end which sounds better through the Wadia and the top end slightly sweeter through the CD. Having the CIAudio external power supply instead of the little wall-wart supply helped, along with a good digital IC. So, bottom line, there is some music that may indeed sound as good, if not better on some recordings and others sounding better spinning the disk, so, the proposed improved new Wadia 171i product sounding better than the original says to me better than the CD, possible?
Dear Kbarkamian, I ripped the files from my computer to my IPod in WAV format or Apple's LossLess Rip to the IPod which was verified as bit for bit perfect from the original source according to a Hi-Fi rag which made the measurements. I do have some Mp3 files on it that do not sound near as good as Lossless.
Rpg
Dear Brian, you may have answered my original question about upgrading my 170i to the 171i transport. Does the new product sound better than the 170i? Like you said, with a good DAC you could not tell the difference between the CDP and the iDoc yet the On-Line dealer info said the new product plain sounded better, to sound better than what we have leaves me with the interpretation that it would sound better than the CD, maybe it's possible, but it leaves me with a sense of doubt. Sure it has a better remote and features, all of which I have no need. Lastly, I too love my iDoc as a music server with my IPod, i rarely play disks, only when I receive a new one and take a listen on my CDP to decide if i want to RIP it to my IPod. Thanks for your help!
Rpg
Brian, i read in a well known rag that the reviewer could not tell the difference between his 170i Doc and his 7K CDP playing the same disk he ripped to his IPod. So when I read in a mail order mag that the new 171i sounded better, how could it be? I think there is a huge factor here and that is the quality of your DAC. Right now, I can not tell the difference between my CDP and 170i, so if the new Doc sounds better, it raises an eyebrow. By the way, you can purchase just the improved remote, contact a dealer or Wadia.
Rpg
Sounds like they went to shipping too early. In another post a member said they would stick with their 170i until the bugs were worked out of the 171, I think that was a smart choice. I remember Wadia was a bit late in shipments of the 171i and that there was an earlier hold on sales. I agree with you, I would return the unit and perhaps wait a couple of months, I'm sure Wadia is working on this feverishly. I know I'm going to wait a long time, I'm quite happy with my 170i.
Rpg
Naggots, I'm using the optional CIAudio V9.0 power supply $275 with my 170i, I don't think it made as huge a difference as the dealer claimed, however there was slight improvement over the wall-wart. Will these voltage regulators you speak of still provide an improvement even though I significantly upgraded the power supply? Do you have more specifics about these regulators and their installation? I'm quite handy with a soldering iron, is this something I can do myself or does Burson require you send in the unit? Thanks, I'm interested in learning more about this!
Rpg
Naggots, where can I learn how to open the Wadia? Is it something you can explain? I know I can most likely replace the components It's just not clear to me how to open the box - please help, thanks!

Rpg