Upgrading Speaker Cables: Wireworld Silver Eclipse or Transparent Audio Ultra?

b4icu325 posts07-27-2020 12:38amJust some facts:

Here are some facts, 30 years ago even radio shack new better cable sounded better, maybe a good ear cleaning, and a little reading will give you a little in site.  You will have to be honest with yourself. CAN YOU HEAR, well? Different cables, can and do sound different.

BTW, YOU don't have to be the only one hearing, or not hearing the same thing... DF and cable length, that's it? If that is all you want to address, then that is all your going to do. It's a way, but not the BEST, way. Your spouting really OLD STUFF.. and it's just not so...or is it?
After all, the earth is flat, right? ;-)

Regards...

b4icu328 posts07-28-2020 1:21am

Let’s start with what I wrote, I said Radio Shack, new better cables "sounded" better, not you own radio shack cables. That being said, you use to be able to buy a lot of good thing at Radio Shack.

So a degree in electronics makes you what?

Not able to learn NOW? Your all filled up. Can’t put another smart thing in that head... LOL

You’ve learned it all, now you know the difference, between a mechanic and an you, "The engineer".
Mechanics never stop learning, they just die.

The first thing engineers use to learn on a job site, was, LISTEN to the ol mechanic. He’s got the hands and the EARS, to hear the problem.
I’ve never met, ONE that could.. I had to teach every, young engineer, old engineer, and "The engineer", what to listen for. I have worked with some GREAT, sound, civil, and mechanical, engineers. All the electrical engineers became electricians, so they could get paid, when they worked. LOL

Engineers make things, mechanics fix things, engineers make!

So we’re clear, many thing I use to fix, an engineer, put their hands on. Though they new what they were talking about, just like you... It ALWAYS took a mechanic or just a GRUNT to finish the whole thing.. Look at NASA, same gig.. mechanics not engineers put the WHOLE thing together. Same UNION.. IAM.

What a person can and can’t hear, can’t always be measured.
Some can hear it, some can’t.
Some THINK they can hear it, when there is no difference.
Others, won’t hear it, if there is a difference. THEY know, what I hear...Sure they do.. DF and la-te-da..

I wish you well, on your quest, to inform the world about cables,
BUT the earth IS FLAT.. and everyone know that.

and I have no STDs, last check anyways... You know your STDs and my STDs might be different.
Last DF measurement, that is..

Regards

auxinput2,166 posts07-28-2020 6:49am

@auxinput You’ve posted here enough to realize what a canard the old silver is bright line is eh?

sorry, but I have done extensive listening and testing with silver components. Silver interconnects, silver fuses, silver digital cable. It is largely system dependent, but they all add a level of brightness and sterileness. If you have very warm sounding equipment, then silver might add some speed, but with the combination of Revel Studio and Krell FPB, the likelyhood of creating a bright edge is high.

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Why on the bright side?

I picked up USAF surplus #12 pure silver medium strand count. It had a poly/teflon cover .60 thick. That wire took over 2000 hours to finally sound really, REALLY good. That was 25 or so years ago. I learned that silver cable/wire take a LONG time to sound anywhere close to the way it can.
I use to think VTL was very bright for a tube amp. It just takes 1000 plus hours for the silver SC wire to settle in. Then, like magic they just start sounding RIGHT..

A lot of Valve amps are voiced with copper just for that reason, they don’t sound GREAT for a long time, add teflon coupling caps, holly cow. Easy 1000 + hours... That’s 6 months at 40 hours a week, or 12 months at 20 hours a week... or 2 years at 10 hours a week, or 4 years at 5 hours a week. See what I’m saying.. A lot of people never hit 5 hours a week of listening. At 2.5 hours a week of listening, EIGHT years to break in a system with silver and teflon caps.

The truth of it is, a LOT of systems, never break in... NOT BURN IN!
I never heard the term in all the year I been doing this, until recent.
I hope I never BURN IN anything.. Break in yea...Burn in...LOL
I use a cable cooker, may I never BURN the cables, only break them in and give them a better, direction to be installed.

With silver cables and a cooker, 10 + day at 24/7 and 200 or so hooked up where they are in service and working.

Copper PC 5 day. Speaker ICs 3-5 days, and 20-75 hours to settle in on both.

Silver clad, MS oh my.. they are brighter than most. Many day on the ol cooker, RCA and XLR 10 days, speaker IC.. I don’t use it..15 days or so...I’d guess for # 12-14

I know, cable cooker don’t work either.
They only, don’t work, if you don’t have one, to work... :-)

Regards