Upgrade from Forte F40/4A

I had a 4A and F44 combo that I liked very much. Went from the 4A to a McCormack DNA125 and ran the F44 with it. The 4A runs warm as many Class A amps do but it's sound is distinctive. It has clear pleasing mids and highs but left the bass a little murkey for me and did not extend down to the capabilities of my speakers. To me my Mc is more dynamic, mildly less detailed mids and highs but more musical bounce. I recently left the F44 (which I like very much) for a TAD tubed pre. Biggest difference was in a wider soundstage thrown with the TAD but the Forte holds it's own for musicality. I can't think of anything SS pre in the used market Forte price range that I would rather have. I think you will spend big to get a small improvement but I always had my eye on getting a Classe DR-6 but never found one priced right enough for me. If you are looking for a nice integrated look at Blue Circle or Plinius. But the Plinius may run warm also. Have not not heard the new PS Audio integrated but it gets good press from the rags. Or keep your 40 and match it with a Good class AB amp SS amp(Classe, McCormack, CJ etc.) that runs cooler than the 4A but that does not sound SS glarey and save yourself some major bucks. I am not familiar with Bel Cantos sound and I am negaitively biased because it is digital. I suspect it will sound vastly different from your Forte setup but that may not be bad for you. Can't speak of NuForce either.

As usual in posts the responses are drifting. If the 4A running warm is a big problem for you and you want to aleviate that a) buy a couple of small fans and keep them blowing on it or b) keep the 40 and sell your 4A ($600 give or take) buy a Mc DNA125 (8-900) used or a used CJ MF 2250 or maybe a DR-9 Classe about the same price range. These will still give you a clear accurate sound you have been used to with the Forte with more low end punch. You may give up a little of the "pristiness" of Class A sound but you will gain in dynamics and bass. I still believe without spending big you are going to beat your combo for sound with an integrated setup.

Semi,

If you are dead set on an integrated check out the Blue Circle CS or NSCS. All you will get with the remote is volume control but excellent sonics. Go to Audio Asylum and read the threads as well as here. Try to listen to them. I have never dealt with the company but they get rave reviews for customer service. Good luck Semi!

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I am sure there may be a few others but here is where I would start. Let us know what you decide to do.

Elizabeth is correct, the 4A is a product worth staying excited about and is a best value for what they go for in the used market. What else you gonna spend $600 or so for that is going to sound any better? They have increased in value over the past 18 months following the asking prices and sales trends and I sold mine for what I had in it. Not many used electronics can make that boast and this from a company that is not even in business any longer. It is usually a good idea to stay away from a company that cannot service what you buy used, not so with Forte (thank goodness for Jon Soderberg). However, you rarely hear of problems with the 4A. IMHO sonic improvement comes slowly incremental in an amp from the 4A, even as the $s go up dramatically. She has reached equilibrium and can enjoy more software with her money, give to charity or eat out more often instead of chasing equipment nirvana. Congratulations Elizabeth!