Update From Ron New Day Record Covid 19 Battle

Another insane post politically motivated, taking a non proved, probably and certainly false fact, and putting it in my mouth and attributing it to me...All that to hide a verifiable fact about Fauci reputation...

But someone unable to think inevitably will destroy even the branch where he sit unbeknownst to him and visible to all...

Insulting is not thinking sorry....But it is well known that some has no care for truth...Only count political points in their game...

Quoting your post like i did is stupid on my part i agree...I am not perfect for sure...

Discussing with fools is itself a fool business...

My best to you ...

Do you also believe that it was FAUCI, of all people, who had Mullis killed.....?

LOOK OUT BEHIND YOU!

*lol*

Another strawman politically driven post against truth by promoting half truth...

Even a child understand that a new technology always is born by a STRING of scientists works, not one..But is this contradict the fact that there exist a man who devise the first idea? No save for someone reading self promoted "fact chekers" employed by the censorship google itself...It is easy to verify who has the idea of mRNA technology...It is a year date in all books....Even biased wiki said so....

Newsflash: Robert Mallone did NOT invent mRNA vaccines. He was simply one of many who had a hand in their development. He sounds rather sour-grapes-ish about things.

I cannot fathom the general stupidity about masks...

Yes we must keep one in risky environment...

No forced mandates about masks EVERYWHERE are not a solution here...like MASS vaxx...

Education,rational action, free consent of a population are the hallmark of democracies...

We cannot imitate china and beat it in dictatorship... They are stronger than us in this field...But are they ? Who is behind mass forced insane vaccinations here?

a clue: not China....

@artemus_5

"including the inventor of mRNA?" Good lord man, do you *really* think mRNA was invented by a man??? mRNA was "invented" by evolution (or God if you believe in that...stuff). mRNA codes for proteins, and the vaccine is just mRNA strands that code for a specific spike protein, and has the body’s cells produce it to tirgger the immune response. You can either learn facts, or spout nonsense. Clearly you’ve chosen the latter.

Your reaction resemble a child reaction when he "proudly" spot an error in the discourse of a grown up...

Do you really think that a simple evident OMISSION  error writing in  a post justify your insulting post instead of a polite correction ?

Look in a mirror and analyse yourself your own  reaction... Call that a free medical advice by me...

Funny how you neglected to comment on any of the substance.

Speaking of "credibility".

One example how i may adress some point in your politically motivated content posting:

Do you know what Kary Mullis, nobel prize winner who invent the PCR technology think of Fauci? Fauci is after Bill Gates the most powerful man in health with a multi billions dollars budget who control all research and publications on the states and even in the world for the sake of corporations... Your post prove that you dont have a clue about Fauci...Mullis think he is TOTALLY incompetent...

Ask the nobel winner Montagnier what he think about Fauci? He will say the same than Mullis...

There exist even books about Fauci debacle in AIDS and in this crisis....But is 2 Nobel winners opinion about someone they perfectly know not a BIG RED LIGHT SIGNAL?

Do you think that 2 nobel prize winners so different in characters are deluded about a man they PERFECTLY know contrary to you?

Study and quit politics ....It is my advice to you....

You post is only insecure political ranting ...Nothing to do with medecine even if you are a doctor...

hartf36 Are you conscious that your post content is a political rant like those you attack rightfully or not?

Massive vaccination mandates are pure political hubris delirium... They have nothing nothing to do with the epidemiology complex rules control steps in the past with a coronavirus which mutate swiftly ...

This virus is NOT a flu but act like one...We must act like with a flu: using PROVEN easy cheap drugs for most whom are healthy or young, not putting the safe drugs out of reach for all and for the FREE doctor who want to use them, and we must act with a vaccination of all health compromised people older one only in priority...Isolating those with symptoms NOT the complete population is sane method in the past... And we must use mask in close long encounter or in heavy populated places... Is it not simple?

Forced mandates are not medecine....At all....Mandates to vaccinates children, or woman with baby in their womb with a mRNa vaccine is insane....

Reason and fear are not friends...

i am flabbergasted by the level of delirium in medecine fields where money interest is all over the place... A doctor is NOT a scientist AT ALL , even if scientifically educated for sure, it is a FREE educated man who pledge to God to help you, BEFORE any money profit for his institution or even against all profit imposed measures by anyone...

Medecine is an ART not a science. those who say the opposite are not free man but robot serving a master which is not our health at all but CONTROL...In medecine art, human interaction and TRUST between doctor and patient are half of the treatment and not always the less potent one but the MOST socially important one for sure...

Why do you think the medecine community in RICH countries is polarized world wide in half?

One half against a mass vaccination the other half promoting it...

Think about what is the greatest change in medecine for the last 50 years : the growing power of pharmaceutical industries to put all doctors in their schakles...

Umm...no. Think for a minute. The ability to post images, GIFs, and videos hasn’t been available here until the recent update. I’ve been a fan of GIFs since, forever.

Like a pen or paintbrush, the animated cell is mightier than the sword and worth a thousand words.

All the best,

Nonoise

No, a word well chosen or a concept could be mightier than a sword or an image in a mature discussion perhaps not in a schoolyard for sure...

Sorry...

A emoticon or an image is just something to underline a point in a discussion at best...

Save if we mix hypnosis,mantra repetition, surprize gesture, destabilization of an interlocutor etc with the like of a gesture instead of an intellectual move...

Perhaps they are children moves, but not Socrates moves for sure...Strawman argument must not exist and had no real power save for a few seconds in sound discussion....

Emoticon and images must be used sparsely for HUMOR only ...

My humble opinion...

Images used like a point in a discussion hide the essence which is in the brain or the heart not in the gut feeling reaction pushing toward a selected image for answering a point argument....

I prefer drawings and schemas....Cartoon images repeated especially, save very good one, are annoying...

Sorry to speak my mind but....i dont want to swim with a bunch of children throwing cartoons instead of brainwork...

"Internet is totally destructive but also could be totally redemptive... It depend how we use it and who control it..."

Funny cat videos, idiots in cars compilations, and stereo discussions only. That’s my solution. Ok, home theater discussions too.

Do you know what i was doing to be informed when i was younger?

I wait in a university library and bookstores for 12 hours a week...

Nowadays , if we look for other thing than funny cat video, we may stumble into about deep new facts and theory about sound, epidemiology or simply a magnificent book to read IN FEW SECONDS...

Try Omm Sety astounding true story...I just finish it to forget about all actual problems in the world...A verified case for reincarnation very hard to debunk...A beautiful love story i think Hollywod must do, and some facts about ancien Egypt...

Or try Karl Friston free energy principle very deep theory about life and the flow of information if you dont like reincarnation book...

Internet is useful mainly to read new books or articles new ideas....Casually also to listen to some interview...Deep one like this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwzuibY5kUs

Internet surfing waste of time is destructive, searching and reading are not....

This time i go back to Pat Martino music for sure....

Not completely out of my computer though 😁 because i just stumble onto a paper about variational ecology, i will glance at it and related it to another morphological study of mammals... Incredible what internet could do and the very poor thing we do with it...

Even when our own life depend on our informed decision about some action we must cautiously take, most people will believe instead any voice which will spare them their own study of facts...

«Life is the only territory where we cannot spare the time to draw our own map of meaning instead of buying one»-Anonymus Smith

I dont know you and dont judge you...My post is "recreational" and perhaps will be useful for at least  one person i wish...I apologize to you for my use of your post...

My best to you....

And tha man that posted that was also a contributor to the argument, so...

Sorry but your argument is a bit lacking 2 leg to walk properly...

An argument cannot EVER be reduced to the person who spoke about it...An argument is sound by itself or not in a string of arguments...

An argument is a fact or an error, or a lie, but must never be rejected because it was associated with the person who spell it...

Logic dont like strawman argument...

By the way it is easy to spot the greed pyramid controlling all corporate interests including so called fact chekers...If you cannot you lack computer skill to research...It take 10 minutes nowadays to LINK all enterprises on earth to 3 CEO more powerful than most states on earth...

Internet is totally destructive but also could be totally redemptive... It depend how we use it and who control it...

In our case the graph calculus relating all corporations on earth by way of weighted influences upon each other is an easy calculus... Try it...

A swiss neutral enterprise has already do all the job... But some others did it too...

A cue: Vanguard, Blackrock and i forget the third one...

No graph ever produce for sure by itself a conspiracy theory or ever promote it, it is just a "fact" to PONDER....

But if a pyramid of power exist, thinking that this pyramid will not act to preserve his interest is a bit "naive"....Is it a conspiracy?

I dont mind about the word used....Reality speak without words...

Now i will go back to Pat Martino music...I need it....

If someone look for truth the only way in a field where we are not expert, is looking for experts that are not PAID for...In my list i had 2 nobel winner prize and 2 inventors of the 2 main technology used in these pandemy among other experts i even have 2 world renowned vaccines experts who has worked at the highest level of this technology in corporations but dare to spell their truth at high cost for them...I forgot 2 of the most well known doctors in the world influential in the treatment of covid at their own risk at the cost of retributions from corporations...Why they would spell their truth for NO PERSONAL gain?

They are all censored....

None of my experts are paid by an agency, or a corporations, or a government...

All these experts had many things to loss and nothing to gain by saying their truth...This do not prove that they are right at all but this prove that we at least must listen to them very ATTENTIVELY...

After the experts in research and medecine we must look for the general socio-political-economical forces at play in this pandemy... ( i dont speak here about the Rockfeller cult by conspiracionist)

But it is a bit naive to think that putting money in medecine will not totally pervert the relation between a doctor and his patient...

This part of research is really easier to look for anyway... It is only a pyramid of power and greed easy to spot...

After that connecting all dots in a probability bayesian grid and we can decide what is the right decision for ourself without judging others...

But beware the price to stay awake is only an added burden... Then go back to sleep if you dont want to think...

If the arguments is constructive you will learn a lot from it.

The problem is a string of constructive arguments exist only in a sound continuous thinking process...

The thinking process was almost stopped a long time ago about many subject matter: being a pandemy or what is "sound" and any other claimed setlled matters by/for any group of interest or lobbies in the large sense of the word, groups aligned with a ready made position of "interests"...

We know enough about sound to create dac technology but it does not means that we understand what sound is...This technological  possibility hide also our lack of understanding of what a "sound" is as musch as it reveal a relative understanding of what it is....For "sound" this state of the matter result of the complexities related to the neurophysiology of sound perception and on the other hand the recording powerful technologies...

In science or in human affairs it is less important to be right than to be honest with oneself...Because it is more important to be able to correct ourself at the right time than being right from the beginning...

No one can always drive without few errors in his lifetime...

Then if there exist constructive arguments, there exist also constructive people and discussions...

It seems like in audio people think ONLY with a binary alternative and stick to their choices without investigating the facts UNDER these FALSE alternative: vaxx or not vaxx...

I will not go further...

Because like in audio, objectivist/subjectivist, or digital/analog the simplistic alternatives hide the problem which is never simple or all black and all white...

We dont even know what sound is,but many think they understand what it is;  imagine understanding what to do in a pandemy with all the multiple sciences field to ponder with all  the various human acitivities in society and understand all at the same times?

All brainwashed people think in alternatives opposed to their choice and scapegoat the opposite...It is way simpler than going thinking all night about the truth of what is " sound" and what to do in a pandemy...

This division now separate friends,family, nations...

All that because the usual brain cannot face complex problem which are never reducible to childish alternatives...

Only very rationnal mind and especially free mind could think for themselves in panicked crowds...

I think the truth at the end of an enigma is where Sherlock Holmes pointed to us long time ago : the dogs are not barking....

I am happy having seen the video that all is ok for Ron...

I wish to him the best to come...

My best to all....