Unbelievable

Amazing, you can take something that probably cost pennies in other industries (like impregnation varnishes and coatings for magnetics), put an audiophile sticker on it, and charge 10-100X. Love it!

Sorry if I already posted this link to the audiophile C37 lacquer from Germany,

http://www.asi-tek.com/C37.html

Triggered much Mr. Kait?

You used to being not too swift? How did you get used to being like that, going through life with that boat anchor around you .. or was it a bag of magic pebbles on the end of a rope? ... or a directional cable. Yup, that's it .... you are burdened by carrying around a heavy bag of magic pebbles on the end of a directional cable ... with nothing to plug it into, so you just tie it around your waist.

You are quick with the insults pebble man, but useful information seems to elude you almost as much as you elude self control every time someone mentions digital, and you jump in with scattered laser light. I have to admit though, you aren't a one trick pony. You must be at least a 3 trick pony ... maybe you could be a busker.

This will never get old ...

Hello fuses, my old friend.
Geoff has come to talk to you again.
Because an electron softly creeping
Induced a field while he was sleeping.
And the direction, that was planted in his brain
Still remains
Outside the bounds of science

With his Walkman he walked alone
Through narrow hallways he calls home
Neath the halo of the directional camp
He dreams of cables but he has no amp
And his eyes were stabbed by scattered laser light
That CD wasn’t right
It was outside the bounds of science

And in the audio forums there he saw
Ten thousand “philes”, maybe more
“Philes” posting without considering
That $15 for a $3 spring is price gouging
“Philies” buying things, without even a care
Because no one dared
To question the bounds of science

Robert said, ah you do not know
Geoffkait’s posts, like a cancer grow
Read his words that fail to teach you
Collected thoughts designed to mislead you
Because his words, like a teleportation tweak fail
Or magic pebbles that are on sale
Are outside the bounds of science

In the framework of "Signal to noise" which is a measurement, cabinet resonances are not noise, but could present as distortion. If you want to be pedantic magic pebble man, resonances induced that are not at the frequency of the stimulus will measure as distortion. If you are going to be pedantic, at least be right. 


The thread is about speaker finishings. Bringing up what happens in a cable is called lack of self control.

Resonances are distortion, not noise.

Given what audiophiles do believe, is this really a surprising statement?

Noise is the time varying quiescent output in the absence of an input signal and/or independent of the input signal. In speakers, noise, by definition, is essentially 0, unless you are claiming it is picking up seismic vibrations from the floor and re-radiating them, on which I will call them out, because the floors and walls will be a far more effective radiator for that, and because that is an external stimulus, so would be akin to showing a frequency response with a truck driving by.

If they want to claim it improves THD, or IMD, then that is within the realm of believable as those are signal dependent properties.

Given the ridiculous claims that audiophiles accept without calling suppliers out on, is it any surprise that some marketer for a main stream brand would do the same .... without any justification or measurement to support it?

The smiley face doesn't make your post any more viable or correct. A speaker just sitting there, unconnected, does not create "sound" of any appreciable level, and I have a feeling it would be almost impossible to detect short of being in super quiet anechoic chamber. It won't say no sound, because anything above absolute 0 must "radiate", and the resistance of the voice coils will have thermal noise .... and that is just ridiculously pedantic. If you want to be ridiculously pedantic, a glossy finish would reflect as opposed to absorb ambient "noise" and hence in a real world situation, a gloss finish is likely to result in worse signal to noise.

What's that saying, exceptional claims require exceptional evidence?  Accepting it as true without being critical just encourages bad behavior. I mean really, look at the people in this thread jumping through hoops trying to justify their statement as correct as opposed to saying, where is your proof, evidence, or even justification. Frankly that is silly. This isn't about feelings, this is about the physical world.