Unbelievable


Yamaha really made this statement:

Glossy black piano finish provides improved signal-to-noise performance


https://europe.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/speaker_systems/ns-5000/index.html

 

I thought I would seek opportunity to hear these speakers, but now I do not think so

 

 

 

 

 


sashav

Showing 24 responses by glupson

asvjerry,

"A finger piano and kazoo?"
I would let the boys decide if they want to use the finger. As I said, I would not interfere.
geoffkait,

"Your comebacks stink and are repetitious."
Come on, out of all people you?

Toot, toot!
phd,

still own a Yamaha surround sound HTR 5760 receiver from the early 2000's.
That is one busy rear panel.
Unimportant as it is, but I do suspect that these Yamaha speakers from the OP actually sound quite good. I have no knowledge, but think they might be charging money for something.

Now, is paint contributing to it or not, I have even less of an idea but I would cut them some slack.
"Given what audiophiles do believe, is this really a surprising statement?"
I would like not to, and in general do not, believe in such claims. But I do run into a problem.

There is a product that sounds fine, any product but you could use these Yamaha speakers as an example. Someone designed and produced it way better than I could ever dream of. That person claims something this "outrageous" and I want to dismiss it. Well, if that person is just making things up, snake-oiling it, why on Earth does her/his product sound good then? She/he may know a thing or two about designing/making it that I do not.

So I give up beating the truth out of it. I give some benefit of the doubt to the designer/manufacturer and just use the product as intended. In the end, why would I even care if it is the paint or not?


geoffkait,

"Why would you think I’m trying to entice you? Are you that stupid?"
Not at all. I did not think it was aimed at me at all. I thought that not-so-subtle reference to close contact was aimed at isochronism.
geoffkait,

Is this really the best website for you to entice people?
geoffkait,

For some reason, I imagine you being of Hayabusa rider built. Sure, you are not that quick. Looks can be deceiving.
cd318,

"Those Sony's look like dream loudspeakers. One version of the SOTA."
They really are. Smaller model (SS-AR2, if I remember correctly) is great, too. Both are relatively small and unimposing and, at the same time, hard to find to audition or buy.

There was a used pair of a smaller model on audiogon not so long ago and that is about it. I was very tempted, but had no place to put them.
geoffkait,

"It’s the same company, glubby."
It is not. Katana has been Suzuki for decades.

Now, Katana and Hayabusa come from the same company, but thay is not SONY.
"Their motorcycles are excellent! 🤗"

They are not Yamaha.

"Then again, the making of a katana involves the lamination of different forms of steel, soft, medium and hard steel."

http://www.suzukicycles.com/Product%20Lines/Cycles/Products/KATANA/2020/GSX1000S.aspx

badger_erich

"No wonder Klipsch stopped using Baltic Birch!"

The story of SONY speaker has the second part, too.

"However, building the entire enclosure from a single type of wood can result in an excessively rigid and hard sound. For this reason, we selected another, somewhat softer cold-climate wood, Scandinavian birch, for the speaker’s side and rear panels. The birch is laminated and compressed to a thickness of 32 mm for the AR1, 24 mm for the AR2. The panels are then curved to a sculptural shape.

This unique choice of woods insures exceptional freedom from unwanted vibrations, as well as a natural, balanced, musically expressive tone.

You’ll remember the density of these woods every time you move the loudspeakers. Although these are not giants, the SS-AR1 weighs 126 pounds while the SS-AR2 weighs an impressive 84 pounds."

http://sonypremiumhome.com/pdfs/AR-1_Brochure.pdf
A little more from Hokkaido...

"The ear pieces are made from strikingly beautiful traditional Japanese Echizen lacquer-finshed Hokkaido Asada cherry heartwood."
https://www.audio-technica.com/cms/headphones/3c552629c6cf881d/index.html

Check the video...

https://www.fostexinternational.com/docs/products/TH900.shtml
Forget about the whole speaker paint...

"Luxman even hand selects the color paint used on the resistors to identify value and tolerance based on extensive listening tests."

https://www.musicdirect.com/integrated-amp/luxman-l-505u-integrated-amp-demo
Hokkaido wood seems to be valued. It also depends what time of the year it was harvested.

"The wood for the baffle board comes from Japan’s island of Hokkaido. Winters are extremely cold, a condition reflected in the tight grain, hardness and rigidity of the indigenous maple. With the assistance of local wood specialists, Sony hand-selected raw maple logs from Hokkaido’s forests. The trees are felled in November, when their growth slows and the grain is at its tightest."

(from http://sonypremiumhome.com/pdfs/AR-1_Brochure.pdf)

By the way, these SONY speakers are serious business. Check them out, if you get a chance.