ultrasound record cleaning machine damaged my records

There are uses of a US Tank that can cause damage to materials.

In my early days if setting up a tank, I was advised to put Aluminium Foil in to it for a period of time and check to see when it perforates.

The idea being to substantially reduce cleaning time for the LP, to not expose the LP to a cleaning period that has caused the Perforation in the Aluminium.

Today there are much better guidance's available for the different Cavitation Dimension available to be produced from different Hz Ultrasounds.

The question is, How accurate is the guidance, especially considering Vinyl is being Cleaned and certain Vinyl Materials are valued albums, that can have multiple years usage.

Does a Unused Album or Brand New Album need the exact same US treatment, as an Album that might have had a 100+ replays? Maybe the 100+ Hours Album has a wear damage that is inaudible, but a US treatment can be a detriment to such a condition being present. This is all conjecture but has to be on the table for discussion, as their only seems to be one type of info out there, Tank Degas, Tank Temp, Rotation Speed and Clean Time. The guidance all seems to be generic for the differences in the Hz of a Tank and Cavitation Dimension. 

I eventually opted out, and use the Neil Antin Manual Cleaning Method, I now have specific instruction using a formula for a mixture that is extremely Vinyl Friendly.

Additionally I now have LP's that are Clean in a way not before experienced, that I refer to as Purified.

I have a 40 Year owned Album that was put through the Wringer of being Teen Owned and a Party Favourite.

The Album was in the end unusable and kept only for Sentiment, in use it was seemingly able to destroy a Styli.  After being impressed with the Manual Clean, I dedicated Six Minutes of my time to do a Manual Clean on the long time owned Album. With the result being I would take this Album anywhere and allow it to be used on any Value of a Cart', the end clean was way beyond all expectations. 

Even when US was still lingering as a tool to be used, I thought a US final rinse might benefit a manual clean process, but today that is certainly not thought to be necessary.

The Neil Antin produced process for cleaning as attached is worthwhile being familiarised with, especially the section on the Manual Cleaning Method.

PACVR-3rd-Edition

It is seemingly the Solution used for cleaning that is the key to the end result being able to substantially impress or not, tools used are merely tools being used.

If I were to change a Cleaning Solution it would be one identified by Neil Antin or someone with Neil Antin credentials, offering the Mixture Ratio for the selected substances.

My days of producing a drip or two of this, splurge of that, diluted with this, to produce a potion where info is supplied from a variety of sources, even the manufacturers. When there is no real understanding of the qualities that are on offer from what is produced, are very much over. 

I strongly suggest anybody putting their faith in the Tools and not the cleaning solution, have a rethink, and discover the mixture / solution that really does benefit the cleaning process.  

I make no secret of the Label I now give my manually cleaned records using the PAVCR Manual Cleaning Method, as being Purified as the end product after the cleaning process.

I attribute 90%+ to this end result as being the Mixture for a Cleaning Solution that Neil Antin carefully calculates.

In posts in other threads, I have made it known I bought in extra ancillaries to enable myself to produce the Solutions to be used to a very accurate ratio for the mixture.

The mixture ratio for the cleaning solution are critical, the tools are aids to optimise the impact of the solution on the material being cleaned.

The following can be challenged quite outwardly with rebuttal. 

How many US Tanks have been filled / are filled / to be filled, with Solutions that are with ratio's for the mixture of the Cleaning Solution, that does not enable the Solution to perform to the necessary requirements ?

It does seem Cavitation used for Cleaning is optimised when manifesting in a particular solution?

It does seem Cavitation manifesting in a non-optimised solution, does not have the cleaning capability to effectively stop cleaning solution residual forming in the LP Groove, to the point the presence of the residual is audible?   

@antinn Not to side track the thread, but at present I work with the suggested for the UK, BASF™ Dehypon® LS 54 nonionic surfactant. as a substitute for  Tergitol 15-S-9.

Can you give a description of how Polysorbate 20 also(Polysorbate 80 is found), fits in as a additional chemical to be used for a solution, or is the chemical to  Supersede Dehyphon as a part of a solution?  

@antinn Thank You for the supplied information.

Polysorbate 20 is much easier to source in smaller volume, hence much cheaper as a purchase than the cost for BASF™ Dehypon® LS 54.

Options on Costings and Chemical for a Part to be used in a mixture to produce a Solution for the cleaning process, is now improved for the UK and EU individuals that express an interest in such practices..  

@pfmaudio Your reporting the Brand, has been more than acceptable, especially now you are convinced the use of the Machine is causing a condition to LP' that is quite a concern.

I would suggest all owners of the Brand who have seen this Thread, hold off from further usage, whilst you pursue an answer to your issue. It does seem quality issues are present and these may already be very similar in other machines sold.  m

@oldrooney I have built a kit around the Manual Cleaning Method described using UK Sourced Substances to be used as a mixture to produce the cleaning solutions.

I also bought into a 2.5Litre Pressurised Gardner Spray Bottle, with adjustable nozzle from jet to fine mist. This is excellent for wetting and Power Rinsing.

For the Mixtures produced to be Cleaning Solutions, I bought from Amazon multi Pack Spray Bottles approx' 0.5 Litre with adjustable nozzle from Mist to jet. 

I have a Batch of Baby Scalp Brushes, colour coded to prevent cross contamination, each Brush has it own shallow rinse bowl.

I have Super Absorbent Sponge for First Dry and the Micro Cloth for the final dry.

New Sleeves are a must once cleaning is complete.

When I get fired up to clean, I protect an area with News Paper to catch the over spray.

Clean over the News Paper, but keep the Albums off the News Paper.

I can do 10 Albums in an Hour and the first 2 or 3 Albums are dry enough to play when the cleaning session is over and evidence of it having happened are cleaned up.

After the first Album is Played, if played immediately, all Albums can follow being played if wanted.