ultimate best speakers ever- now under 15K


#1 world class winner top of the line. I have decided to upgrade my system not just a notch but all the way. I want a system that will bring me very close to the real thing whether its vocal or operatic or symphonic, I want to be able to hear the micro-details and subtle nuances, the placement of the musicians, and tonality among other things. So far the best that I have heard is the piegas c8 ltd. and dynaudio c4. I am willing to go as high as 15K for a used pair, but will first consider used ones at 7K-10K. I listen to opera mostly but I also listen to all other forms except rap. Serious contenders only please, i am interested in top grade.
pedrillo

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For symphonic music you need speakers capable of great dynamic swings and acoustic power (a Wagnerian SOrch is very large-- conside the task of reproducing 8-16 cellos, let alone the rest of the orch!). This usually also means large radiating area, i.e. large speakers.
All the speakers mentioned are very good, but for symphonic /operatic music the Soundlabs or the Genesis mentioned would be obvious short-list items.
The problem with Soundlabs is that they lack low end energy and need expensive amplification, especially if purchased used (i.e. the more sensitive models only started shipping recently). The good thing about them is that they sound excellent, and you can even play the blues on them (politely). Plus, if you find bass is lacking (you may not) you can save pennies for their subwoof or use a pair of dipole dynamic subwoofs.

The problem with Genesis (200 series or 300 series) is that they are expensive and if purchased used, they may need maintenance. The good thing is that they sound excellent (laid back, mark you), they are easy to maintain by yourself and they certainly don't lack energy at any part of the normal spectrum, and they are actively bi-amped.

Modern speakers of the Accuton ceramic drivers persuasion (Avalon, Kharma, Martens, many notable others) can also fit your bill -- but the big ones (that you need) are horrendously expensive.

Another possibility is the big Thiel, whatever its number (7,?). But IMO, the short-listed ones above are well within your budget and your needs and, better. Cheers
Kharma & Genesis are differently voiced, although with using the controls on the Genesis one can approach the Kharma/ Martens /Avalon sound.
I like the JM Lab, but find them very expensive...
Unfortunately, you'll really have to listen carefully and, IMO, a reasonable recording (not top notch) of Mahler 2 and Mahler 8 and some small ensembles (preferably with low tuning on the violins), will tell you all.
When listening, remember to gauge exactly where you are seated in the virtual auditorium/ concert hall (i.e. pls, don't place yourself inside the orchestra)! Cheers