Two questions to make you mad.


#1 Why is it that the worlds most sophisticated and accurate machine the (ASML) TWINSCAN NXE:3600D doesn’t use special AC or signal cables to make 3nm semiconductors. Audiophiles need special cables for accuracy?

#2 Why is it that you can always tell when a piano is playing live, or even an electric guitar is playing live 2 houses away directly into an amp through walls and windows?

In the 1960s Electro Voice announced that their speakers could reproduce exactly accurate sounds, many believed them.

We are fooling ourselves, our hobby is full of lies and we can’t even face facts.

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Showing 5 responses by texbychoice

#1  No logical comparison or correlation between the ASML system operation and home audio.  There will be a long list of installation requirements from ASML that must be met to achieve proper performance, cable being a minor factor. Implying that ASML does not care about cable or AC quality to create a completely bogus  controversy is silly. 

#2 Apples to oranges premise that makes no sense. 

 

@donavabdear The ASML system must be accurate and precise. There is far more complexity involved in that machine that has nothing to do with cables.  Semiconductor fabrication does not hinge on cables as you want to argue.  Intel production problems had nothing to do with the type of AC cable in use.  Sorry, your premise is totally lacking in substance to provide any value to the audio hobby. 

@donavabdear Really?  Your agenda is revealed.  Paint a completely ridiculous scenario with no connection to audio so you can then justify a conclusion based on nothing factual.  You want to discuss the merits of various cables used in the audio hobby, do so in a honest manner.     

Was the difference worth the cost for you?  Only you can answer that question.  Same for every other individual that is inclined to be frugal or go big $ with their system.  Broad generalized statements that cables make a huge difference or can't possibly make a difference are worthless.

Similarly, extrapolating and extending must include all the variables involved when comparing which AC cable is used in audio versus another application.  No doubt Audio Precision power supply, filtering, grounding, shielding, components, construction, etc. are designed to handle the good, bad, and ugly AC power.  All Audio components are not necessarily designed to the same standards.  Different AC cables may, emphasize may, make a difference in the audio realm.  

Refer to the work of Galen Gaeris to learn the science involved in cable design.  Reviewers and other opinions based only on R, L, and C only scratch the surface.  Everyone does not need a cable designed by Galen Gaeris.  Neither is it correct to say there is no difference in cable performance.

Try different cables, or not.  Just don't claim what worked, or not, for you can be universally applied to every other situation.  Same for reviews or measurements - no universal truth to be found there. 

@donavabdear Glad you found items that made a difference. Our Audio Hobby can be a never ending journey of different equipment and tweaks.  If we could all start with stable and clean AC that would be a great start to eliminate one variable. Stand alone filters, conditioners, and regenerators all can give you good AC. AC cables, not necessarily expensive, made of quality materials and construction are important to minimize  pollution of a clean AC source. 

Start with clean AC and convert to stable DC in each component.  However, audio remains a variable frequency and amplitude signal to process keeping unwanted noise at bay.  Our home environments typically include cell phones, computers, smart TVs, Wi Fi, Bluetooth, and various convenience electronics that all contribute to EMI/RFI pollution.  All that electronic noise can still cause problems with our audio equipment.      

A Power Regenerator eliminated my system sounding different morning, afternoon, or evening.  Prior to that several other "tweaks" made differences that were both audible and measurable. Each change was based on improving the quality of items like wire, capacitors, resistors, connectors, etc. Cost does not have to get out of control. Made my own quality shielded interconnect cables. Properly grounded everything, avoiding ground loops.

AC cables are a work in progress. Ditched the cheap manufacturer supplied cables and made one of my own and tried a couple reasonably priced "audiophile" cables.  For my system different AC cables made much less difference that the Power Regenerator. 

Everything matters, to a varying degree, due to many factors unique to each of our systems and environment.

Best of Luck.