Tweaks - An Honest Discussion


I know there is a lot of talk about performance tweaks in this forum and the value that can be realized.  I've started this thread because it seems that folks tend towards believing they are either the silver bullet to sonic bliss or conversely simply snake oil.  I believe tweaks are somewhere in between and in most cases, worth about what you pay for (crazy  I know).

I'm open minded to tweaks and have employed many in my system over the years including isolation, fuses, footers, HFTs, cabling, cable risers and attempts at reducing RFI (among others).  While I believe that many of these tweaks incrementally helped me get better performance out of my system I never for a second found any tweak make a transformational difference the way that a significantly upgraded piece of gear brings to the table.  I think many of us have been quite happy with our systems over the years but that doesn't mean implementing a tweak can possibly compete with the benefit of replacing a piece of gear that is well matched to elevate your system. Just because you're happy with your setup doesn't mean a major gear change can't really elevate the experience - surely well beyond any form of tweakery.  

As an example, I've been very happy with a Hana ML cart and how it's performed in my system.  I recently decided to acquire a Lyra Kleos cart - for a $2K increase the change has been transformational in terms of dynamic range and ability to convey detail and imaging.  There has never been a dot I've placed on a wall, carbon platform placed under gear, or RFI shielding device I've ever used that could possibly come close to this equipment upgrade.  Same goes for upgrades to my system over the years in terms of amps, pre's, and speakers.  For anyone to suggest that through tweaks alone you can elevate your system to a level that only gear changes can achieve simply falls flat in my experience.  Some may be shocked to hear that most of the time a $200 tweak truly only gets you about $200 worth of improvement (if any) and not the equivalent of a $5000 gear upgrade. I know there is a certain allure that by simply being smart and applying elbow grease that we can extend the sonic limits of our system well beyond it's design, parts, and capabilities but that's just not true IMO.

What's your experience been?   
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Showing 5 responses by oregonpapa

f1status1 ....

I have a raised wood floor too. The solution was to buy a pair of unfinished maple platforms from Mapleshade. Spike the platforms through the carpet, then spike the speakers to the platforms.

Here’s what you would be looking for:

https://shop.mapleshadestore.com/Ready-To-Be-Finished-Maple-Platforms_p_16.html

You will get a much-improved sound from top to bottom, and the bass will be much more defined.

Mapleshade sells the spikes too.

By the way, I tried granite as suggested above, and while the midrange and top-end improved, the bass was almost nonexistent.  Go with the Mapleshade platforms.

Frank
millercarbon ...

Correcto Mundo ...

The granite slabs that I tried under the speakers were 12" x 12" and were designed to go under electronic equipment. They have a constrained layer of dampening material between two layers. If you look at my system pictures, you’ll see larger versions under the electronics. They work like crazy under the electronics, but the smaller ones really sucked under the speakers.

After trying the granite platforms under the speakers, and not liking the results, I placed them on top of the speakers where they fit perfectly. The added weight was akin to adding mass to the speakers, and that brought about a nice gain in SQ from placing them there.

The Mapleshade maple platforms as described above were much larger and thicker than the granite platforms. The Mapleshade platforms, plus the ten-pack of SR HFT’s placed around the room as directed, combined with the granite platforms on top of the speakers, gave the system outstanding bass and improved everything dramatically from top to bottom.

Frank
letch ...

In that case, I would just use the maple platforms and spike ti speakers to them. 

Frank