TW-Acustic Raven 10.5 or DaVinci Grandezza??


Seems like a crazy question!
I am getting a Raven one but will have a choice of the Raven 10.5 or DaVinci Grandezza for just $2000 more! Which should I go for? Well I am not sure if Raven one is a good match to this super arm but the 10.5 have got great reviews. Please give soem advice.
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Showing 8 responses by rockitman

is da vinci serious ? when they say:

Adjustable on this tone arm is:
a magnetical dumping & the VT-Adjustment
This tone arm hasn’t antiscating adjustment
This tone arm hasn’t azimuth adjustment

Most owners ask us about adjustment. To all we say: add the cartridge and listen the music, then immediately you understand, why we omit div. adjustment tools.
This tone arm is built to bring all the musicality of your LP’s!

you would think with spending $10K on a tonearm, they could get the english right. I find it laughable there is no azimuth or anti-skate adjustment. Da Vinci over-priced ? Perhaps not in the world of boutique tables and arms...they certainly are to me. I can think of quite a few tonearms that offer complete adjustability and even on the fly in some cases for azimuth. Da Vinci is off my list...lol
Every cart can benefit from azimuth adjustment...perhaps not all if your lucky. Shame on Da Vinci for not offering this critical adjustment option
^^^ My experiences mirror yours Wrm57. I have two A90's and a Shelter Harmony. Both the Shelter and the A90 I am currently using required a bit of azimuth correction based on the matching of the crosstalk between both channels with the Foz. I would never buy an arm that did not allow for Azimuth...wait, I did once before...It was the Kenner Close & Play I owned as a child. :-)
Der,

what' the best/easiest way (tools) to determine (test) for balanced voltage output of the cart coils ?
10-26-11: Dertonarm
Rockitman, all you need is an oscillating pad and a µV meter - that's it.
The technical straight way to determine coil output independent from stylus position/mounting position.
This way you get the raw coil response - totally independent of any position of the polished area to a groove.

So you mean an Oscilloscope ? And if so, is it simply a matter of connecting the Oscilloscope ground clip to the ground on the left channel and the hot clip (+) to the positive (hot) on the left channel and measuring the voltage, then doing the same for the right channel and then comparing the two to see if the voltages match ? I don't have much Oscilloscope use experience. Just trying to undertsand how I would go about measuring the voltages.
Dear Der, if I went the oscilloscope route, is my explanation of the process to measure voltage on a cart correct ?
10-27-11: Lewm
Dear Rockitman,
If you want to use your own tools to adjust for azimuth, I do not think it is as simple as Dertonearm implies. You also need a pure test tone on an LP (usually 1kHz will suffice, but if you are fanatical you could use more than one frequency, and ideally a notch filter to get rid of spurious noise above and below the test frequency. This is why Fozgometer sells. You zero out both channels for equal gain. Then you play a test signal on one channel only. Measure voltage. Call that "0db". Now play the same test signal into the same channel and measure voltage that appears on the opposite channel. That will be a much smaller voltage, hopefully. Convert that into db, which will be a negative number, like -20db or lower. This is "crosstalk". Do the same in reverse. You will have two values of crosstalk in terms of negative db. Now play with azimuth and see how the values change. Some like to adjust for equal crosstalk in both channels. Some others like to adjust for lowest possible crosstalk, regardless of whether the numbers are equal in value. (I have always observed that I can get less crosstalk if I settle for unequal crosstalk. For example, I might be able to get -25db in both channels at 1 kHz. But if I just shoot for least crosstalk, I might get two values of say -28db and -30db. Life is funny that way.)

Dear Lewm. I own a Fozgometer and a few test records with the 1 kHz tone and do use it to set azimuth. My inquiry with Dertonarm related to the coil output voltages (Channel Balance) and whether the output is equal on both channels of the cart in question.