Turntable advice


Hello everyone, I’m looking to buy my first turntable and want to get some advice about two specific turntables that I’m looking at. I can get both of these for a similar cost, so I’m looking for opinions on which way I should go. First, my current system consists of Rockport Cygnus, McIntosh mc1.25kw’s, McIntosh c2700 (will be used as phono stage at the start), dcs Bartok apex for digital, Cardas clear reflection cables (not power), rel no 31 pair of subs and torus power units. 

The tables that I’m down to (unless I choose to not spend as much out the gate) are a VPI Avenger Plus, most likely with a Hana ML cartridge and a Pure Fidelity Harmony with the illustrious se Tonearm and either the same cart or potentially the stratos cartridge. 
 

If I go this route, I’d like something that could eventually get more out of upgrades cartridges or tonearms down the road. Any advice or thoughts would be helpful, especially if you have experience with both. Thanks in advance!

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One other option could be to do the Volare and get a nicer cartridge than the one that I’m considering (or not if it isn’t needed). 

Lots of good feedback and thoughts here. As oldaudiophile, mentioned, I am indeed just getting into it and have a whole lot to learn. I’ve definitely thought about what vonhelmhotltz said with foregoing this endeavor and just making my digital as good as it can be. What attracts me to vinyl is the process, the sound which I’ve really come to appreciate and to some extent I think I will really enjoy looking for and finding albums. 
 

as far as introducing other brands, I definitely will look into that, but also have a dealer that I trust and who has treated me right, including service that has gone above and beyond anything I’ve experienced elsewhere. That's worth a lot and potentially limits my choices to stay with someone I trust. Brinkmann is also intriguing but above my price point currently. 
 

One completely different option that we talked about was starting with a lesser, but good table, specifically the Dr. Feickert Volare (shoutout to edgyhassle) and get a few years under my belt, especially since I don’t have a separate pre now. Then I could learn a lot more and buy an endgame table once I’ve figured that out and know that I’m committed to vinyl. That would also give me a longer upgrade path, but potentially more expensive than just buying one of the two tables I mentioned. 
 

I’ve read a bit about the VPI’s and it seems they are quite polarizing. I do love the look and sound when I’ve heard them (at multiple dealers and at shows, including southwest audiofest recently). I also really like the brinkmann taurus and the pure fidelity harmony sounded great as well. In almost all of those cases, the phono stages were significantly better than what I have now. 
 

Coming back to two that I’m looking at here, the avenger plus (seems similar to what you pointed me to exigem2, with the benefit of the rim drive system) has some nice features including a rim drive system, a good Tonearm (potentially debatable) and seems like it could have a lot of potential for future upgrades. The Harmony seems like it is great as well and potentially easier to use and learn on. I’m not as sure about the long term upgrade path, but I’m sure there is also potential there. The third option then could be something like the volare and so what I mentioned above and buy a better table in a few years. 


Thanks for all the feedback so far! And excuse the typos, I’m in the passenger seat while my son is practicing his driving for the third time, yikes!
 

 

Hey crustycoot, really good questions and thoughts. I don’t have a collection yet, but did buy a couple albums at the southwest audiofest. In my listening room, I would say I lean towards jazz and blues at least 60-70% of the time. The rest is some rock, which I’m coming to appreciate more and r&b/hip hop sporadically thrown in, lol. 
 

appreciate the input on my built-in phono too, definitely will let my ears lead me!

Really good stuff everyone. I’ve heard the tables I was down to and was really looking for any thoughts on the two. I knew I’d get all kinds of opinions, which I really appreciate. I’ve been acquiring some vinyl and have bought things like Miles Davis Kind of Blue and Aja (both uhqr) as well as Diana Krall’s live in Paris album, massive attack: mezzanine, a box set of Gregory Porter’s albums and some Anne Bisson that I bought from her at SW audiofest a few weeks ago, among others. In the end I decided to go with the one that I enjoyed listening to the most, which was the Avenger Plus (I know and have heard the strong opinions on Vpi, lol). I did decide to go a little higher on the cartridge than I originally planned and am getting a Benz LP-S.