Turn down the Volume!


One topic that seems rarely discussed is volume. If you listen to mixing engineers, it’s their most feared aspect of how their work is measured, since it’s out of their control. This leads to things like loudness wars (assume the worst). As my system has improved, my main takeaway is I can be engaged with 60db peaks, where when I hear other systems you often have to turn it up to 90db peaks for it to sound decent. I’m pretty sure it all has to do with bass and room energy, but wonder if others have a similar experience. Side note that reviews or any subjective ‘better’ statements about gear rarely indicate how loud they are listening. since all we can perceive if volume it is puzzling. I will say if it sounds good with 110 db peaks then that is impressive. 

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Showing 9 responses by onlyqualityhifi

@ghdprentice duly noted. And sorry your 50 years quest has failed. I’m pleased to say mine hasn’t. 
 

enjoy the music. 

(RIGHT ROOM) VOLUME (RRV).
 

Get the volume set right THEN NEVER CHANGE IT  Yup you read that right, once it’s set for a particular source you don’t change irrespective of the type of music.  RRV as I call it should become de facto but if isn’t  

As the OP points out this a rarely discussed issue BUT IT IS CRUCIAL to your listening enjoyment. 

I opened a similar discussion on another forum, which claims to know ‘what’s best’. They piled in. Couldn’t handle my reasoned arguments. The forum owner even challenged me to post some decibel readings coz he wouldn’t accept I was doing it right AND playing at decent sound levels, even in a small room. So I took his challenge posted three readings … and the coward backed down and closed the thread.  What a woos!

So yes RRV challenges the norm. But boy does it work.  Dial in your RRV and never touch that volume button again. Just enjoy the music. 

I agree with @mijostyn I OWNED an ultra high end dealership I also produced and mixed multi million selling records.

VERY VERY FEW SYSTEMS come close to conveying the music even remotely accurately, and playing at low volume will not IMO get you there

The RRV needs to be set correctly, that’s a first, then it’s down to so many other factors starting with the amp, the heart and soul of every system

Im fortunate enough to having experienced audio nirvana and I can assure you it’s awesome. Pure utter joy.

 

@mijostyn Hi, no. Its NOT correct. The RRV when set correctly is right for EVERY recording. Many will disagree. I cant help that. 

Also you cant set RRV accurately with a stepped remote. Its not accurate enough. The RRV needs precision.

I HAVE the best system ive ever heard and boy have I heard a few.  Many are literally reduced to tears when they hear.  Oh and its in a small REALLY crap room. So yes. The room affects but not as much as you may think. Well not in my set up. Certain amps ‘take out’ the room’s affect. 

They do @mijostyn as long as you set the RRV correctly. Yes even a string quartet vs a rock concert.  You just get more headroom. Its revealing to hear but most rewarding 

 

its the best kept least understood audiophile secret. 

Sorry I thought I explained it.  Its the very precise setting for the  volume at which a particular source plays in your listening environment. Once its set you NEVER change it for your chosen source.  All play now at the RIGHT ROOM VOLUME. The RRV. 

I understand your response and I respectfully and entirely DISAGREE. RRV works for every piece of music from the same source.  ‘Softer’ music if you wish to call it that just has more headroom more room to breath.  
 

I play ALL music at the same volume, the RRV, and the magic is always there. 

@ozzy62 I spend most of my time enjoying the music. As you will have noted I don’t post much- anywhere.  Just not enough hours in the day

Suffice to say I have produced mixed and mastered multi million selling records. I also owned multiple high end hifi-home cinema stores. 
 

I spent my life in music and my system has been lauded by many a hifi professional - manufacturers inventors journalists music professors and of course just music lovers. 

I tried explaining RRV buts it’s fallen in deaf ears so quite frankly I’m wasting my precious time trying to convince. 
 

let’s just say IM CONVINCED about RRV and boy have I tried not to believe it so. But it is. So theres. that.