Nsgarch: It probably wasn't a fair statement about Ebay junk..I have done many good tube deals on Ebay..My point was for a newby or Someone that might seem new to the NOS scene,I think it would be the smart thing to buy first from a relaible ( but more expensive ) tube dealer,thus having a better chance of getting exactly what he might think he is getting..I just think there is a higher percentage of satisfaction that way ..As you did mention.The best thing any potential tube guy can do is " his or her Homework " ...I know we all have put our time in and it does pay off down the road.........