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Tube vs Solid State

Folks,

For past few months, I have been trying to achieve best possible sound in my rig. The focus now is clearly on a improving 2 channel sound in what started as a home theater room.  

In past couple of years, I have added N10, Modwright DAC and very recently a LS36.5 linestage . The amps are Modwright KWA150SE. I am running pair of KWA150SE's in bridge mode (450Wx1) for the mighty B&W 800D2's.  While I like the sound as is, still feel something is missing. 

I have been toying with the idea of bi-amping.  One thought is to add mono tube amps to run mid's and high's and let the KWA150SE's handle the LF's. I am pursuing that seductive, slightly warm mid-range and top end that usually comes from tube amplification.  

I don't think there is any tube amp out there by itself capable of powering up bass hungry 800's. I prefer not to use a subwoofer in 2 channel setup. I listen to mostly jazz and classical music and quite sure that 800's are capable of producing adequate bass with proper amplification. 

Any feedback would be appreciated. 

Cheers! 
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almarg
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OK, good luck Lalit.  Regarding the McIntosh possibilities you mentioned, be sure to keep the following potential impedance compatibility issues in mind:

The MEN220 has an input impedance of 10K, balanced or unbalanced, which will result in deep bass rolloff and possibly other sonic issues when driven by many tube preamps.  Most ARC line stages and preamps, for example, have a minimum recommended load impedance of 20K.

The MC601 and MC301 have input impedances of 22K, balanced or unbalanced.  So if they are driven by a single output stage (per channel) within a preamp or line stage that output stage will see a load impedance of 11K, which again will be too low for good results with many tube preamps.  And most preamps and line stages that provide two output connectors per channel drive both connectors from the same output stage.

Fortunately the MC601 and MC301 have the same gains, and both are very powerful, so biamping them without an electronic crossover seems like a reasonable approach.

Best regards,
-- Al
 
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Thanks again Al, I will check it out. 
dhanula
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IMO.. proper room acoustics and accurate speaker placement can give better results than trying to improve the electronics with the stuff you have. play around with those first.
digsmithd
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That worked for me...dialed my speakers in and lo and behold...
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I congratulate you on considering bi-amping.  Here's the gear I'd use for this effort.  First off I'd get the DDRC-24 from miniDSP.   It comes with a license for using DIRAC room measurement software.  

https://www.minidsp.com/products/dirac-series/ddrc-24

You'll probably want to get a calibrated measurement microphone from Parts-Express.  Not at all expensive.

After that I'd look into the Bob Latino tube amps from VTA.  If you're really looking to run some juice, you might want to think about using the M125 monoblocks (120 watts) for your bass end and the ST-120 (60 wpc) for your high end.  I think that's overkill actually, but that's the biggest beef you can find.

You can buy them pre-assembled and tested, or you can build them yourself.  I think building them is much, much more fun, but that's up to you.

http://www.tubes4hifi.com/bob.htm#ST120
http://www.tubes4hifi.com/bob.htm#M125
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