Harold, please be REALLY careful installing the mag lev feet, pref. have someone helping you. The rare earth magnets are v. powerful, and there is a real tendency for a bit of a fight until you fully engage the magnets and footers in place, esp. w/3 feet to be installed. That second person would be there to help stabilise the tt as you attempt each foot. Once installed you'll be in for a bit of a change. For me, things were pretty rough sounding, v. harsh indeed, until I realised I'd knocked a lot of levels out in the install, and in effect set up had to happen from scratch. This means esp re levelling the whole tt via the new feet, and re levelling the Terminator gantry, and prob looking at vtf/azimuth again. Once I got that little lot sorted, the sound transformed from rough'n'ready to even more sophisticated than before. Bass is the big impvt, a real cleaning of hash and revelation of "true" bass, tot non-euphonic, supremely agile, w/kick drum really delineated but no fat. This leads to a de cluttering of the mid range and a freeing up of treble, the soundstage expanded in all directions. NOT subtle. |
It'll be worth the wait - if you ever return from that parallel dimension: you know, the one where punk never happened and prog lp's are still spanned by millions, 24/7 on tt's across the world, a la 1973! Installing the mag feet has been a MASSIVE step fwd - I really do feel I'd have to spend 5x the budget of my Salvation/Terminator/Straingauge to outperform it. The mag feet, maybe even more than the magnetic bearing, is bringing a massive sense of calm to proceedings, really allowing micro dynamic shadings to emerge, and allow the true bass character of the rig to shine. |
Sgunther, at £120 for the 3 mag feet, it's a no brainer. The only issue I'd be wary of is if your system tends twds over brightness/thinness, this might be exaggerated. In a more neutral or warmer sounding system, the SQ impvts are substantial. Lewm, thanx. There's too much sensitivity on forum boards and social media generally, we can all be too protective/defensive over comments construed as criticism. Will rein the hyperbole in, but the mag feet have definitely improved what is already a giant killing package. Dover, don't worry too much about lack of continuity using the mag feet. Any movement via the feet is microscopic, this is just a way to minimise the travel of vibrations up into the tt. I'm actually considering running the motor pod on Symposium Acoustics Rollerblocks HDSEs, which will addd ANOTHER possible layer of discontinuity. Btw, the Salvation is a direct rim drive, not belt drive, and as such may be better able to cope w/this kind of isolation/discontinuity. |
SGunther, the mag lev feet are a no brainer, the only caveat being they may make a thin strident sounding system too edgy. Normal tonal balance or even an overly-warm sound will really be perfect. I've come to the conclusion after a rocky start, that the feet beat the mag lev platter re impvts wrought, no mean feat (feet? LOL). Re lp clamp, Vic is adamant NO NO NO! The ResoMat in effect leaves the lp supported on points, and any overly-heavy clamp will bow the lp down at it's centre, causing a concave dishing, and a lifting of the outer edge. Maybe a v. light clamp that doesn't weigh down the lp, but to increase solidity of contact w/the points on the mat, might work. And poss a periphery ring, but again really not too heavy (i.e. avoid like the plague the ultra heavywt TTWeights stuff). Vic really believes, contrary to pretty much every other tt designer, that vibrations are dealt w/more effectively by minimal securing of the vinyl structure, akin to letting the lp "breathe" while it's playing. |
Edgy and revealing can seem v.similar in character. One can have a v. edgy sounding system w/ or w/out detail present. The mag feet will reveal at lot more detail, but I have an issue w/uber resolution in edgy systems, where the sum total is totally uninviting. Eg Vic's home system incls a digital T amp, open baffle Bastani spkrs, and impressive as the detail resolution is, the edge of your seat presentation I find totally fatiguing and nerve shredding. It MIGHT be that in a similar uber energetic/revealing rig the feet may push the balance further into nerve jangling territory. |
John, this isn't going to wk for me since I'm running a Soundsmith Straingauge cart. But I am happy to hear Vic's current setup, I'm sure it's really sweet. Sgunther, concur w/you, the mag feet are stupendous, in some ways more radical than the mag bearing. Re the stridency I initially heard, I'm not sure what that was all about, but everything is just excellent sounding now. |
O'moon, that was my fear too, but the arm has proved to be v.fuss-free. It takes a bit of finegling to sound of it's best, but from that point is pretty much play and forget. I believe the arm is the biggest bargain in the high end, analog or otherwise.
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Have been running top factory spec Soundsmith Straingauge cart, twin bespoke Peter Downs Design psus to Straingauge and Salvation motor, and a whole string of mods, from bespoke Al arm mount to Terminator air linear tracker, nylon unipivot points, Klei Silver Harmony RCA plugs to tonearm wire, Symposium Svelte pad under motor pod, and the crowning glory, a Stacore Advanced pneumatic platform as support. This analog front end is now a fearsomely impressive performer, with no apparent weaknesses, and some real performance attributes that shame some tt front ends at multiples of the price.
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Have gone all out to create my dream analog front end. Salvation tt now on Stacore Advanced 95kg passive pneumatic isolation platform. Rim drive pod now on Symposium Acoustics Svelte isolation pad. Rim drive speed controller now powered by bespoke R-core transformer psu. Salvation w mag lev bearing and tt feet. Terminator air arm pump powered by 3kVA balanced transformer isolated from grid to main system. Bespoke Al arm mount to Terminator. New nylon unipivot points to Terminator. T3Pro armwand upgrade to Terminator. Upgraded Klei Silver Harmony RCA jacks to Terminator one-piece tonearm wire. Soundsmith Straingauge cart now upgraded to top spec SDS-7 stylus profile. Bespoke overspecced R-core transformer psu to Straingauge energiser. New IC chip to energiser. SR Black fuses and Sablon Elite pwr cords to Salvation and Straingauge psus. RollerBlocks on Symposium Acoustics platform under psus and energiser. — Im now maintaining all the rhythmic drive and speed that my rig was exemplary at, with a new found revelation of texture, air, transparency, imaging, and especially genuine tone and authentic timbre. Now I can have the best of both worlds, the positives that the best idlers/rim drives are lauded for, with a healthy dose of what the best belt drives bring to the party.
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Hi Noromance, I had a big delay in reinstalling my analog as I first got my dedicated listening space built, and second, accidentally tripped my Straingauge necessitating a 4 month repair delay. Ive always known the stock psus on the Salvation tt speed controller and Straingauge energiser were able to be bettered, and while these psus were being built by Peter Downs at www.alternativeaudio.co.uk, it was also possible to get Trans Fi Audio designer Vic to update the unipivot points and other odds and ends. Also an enthusiast Salvation/Terminator user was proposing a bespoke Al arm mount, so at this point I thought let’s keep going LOL. The biggest masterstroke was coming across the Stacore pneumatic/slate mass loaded passive isolation platform. And another lot of smaller changes. All the while Peter Lederman did his magic upping my Straingauge to top factory spec. — Ive in effect now spent 3x my original outlay, but I have a pretty stellar performer that really punches above its weight and sounds unique to me in lots of ways. — It is true the Salvation and Terminator are both discontinued, a real shame and loss to the analog world. |
Noromance, I love my valves too (running Nat Audio Utopia pre and 70W 211s SE2SE monos), but I feel I’m missing nothing w the SS Straingauge.
It can lack warmth w the stock DC 24V wall warts, but using my Peter Downs bespoke psu to the cart energiser has endowed the Straingauge w an amazing natural warmth, generous texture, supple bass, neutral mids, clear extended treble, indeed all the things I hear in the best tubed phono stages.
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