Tracking modern pop recordings with very loud bass


I have an number of newer digital pop sometimes even other genres like modern jazz recordings that I stream from my music library, Spotify, etc. Infusing a lot of very loud bass into modern recordings seems like a popular practice. It really can make you feel the music not just hear it with a good extended hifi system. Does not seem nearly as common in older recordings made 30 years ago or more in the days of analog or even early digital recordings.

Are there any new vinyl releases like this? Can people’s Record players track it? Or do the producers tone it down when mastering for vinyl. This is a result of modern digital mastering techniques commonly used these days so just wondering how well it transfers to vinyl. Any cases in point comparing a streamed version to one put to vinyl?
mapman

Showing 2 responses by chakster

What are you talking about ?

You’d better go to a party to hear some Drum & Bass spinning by your local DJ on vinyl, it will blow you b.....s off. There is nothing but a drums and bass, and it’s on vinyl! An average $50 pro cartridge like Shure M44-7 on $350 Technics SL1200mk2 turntable tracks everything, including some super bass heavy club music recorded and mastered digitally and pressed on vinyl. Even if the music is nothing but shit, technically, it’s not a problem to reproduce deep bass that will shake buildings in the nearest blocks if there is a festival or some rave nearby with sound system that can be dangerous for your health.

Asking about "bass" you have to remember club culture and electronic music of the 80’s and 90’s before digital !

If you want to go deeper in details read about special mastering for vinyl and you will find tips about bass (it must be in mono). 

It make no sense to compare overcompressed digital electronic music to real live music. What they do in electronic music does not exist in real live music. If you want to check the extreme then electronic music is a good example. 

A proper music can be recorded direct to disk without any problem with tremendous dynamics and instruments like bass guitar or double bass will be real. 




I run an an LP mastering operation; we use an old Technics SL1200 I got on craigslist for $400.00, for testing to see if our cuts will be playable by a non-audiophile setup. I Installed a Grado Gold in it, and it works really quite well.

Watching this video from Grado Labs NYC anyone can recognize even older Technics. This is a turntable to test cartridges at Grado Labs.

Here is another example of the cheapest Shure cartridge suspension (extreme test) in slow motion video. That was a $50 cartridge. It will track everything including some shitty warped records with very loud bass.

Here is warped as hell record played on another cheap turntable with very cheap cartridge that don’t even skip!

I am not talking about quality here, the OP posted some nonsense about bass response and tracking abilities of a phono cartridges. He doubt a phono cartridge can reproduce bass without miss tracking. Even dirt cheap phono cartridge can do that without skipping on very cheap $400 Technics turntable, so you can imagine what a $500 cartridge can do on $1000 tonearm on $1500 turntable?

If you experienced miss tracking then your cartridge or your tonearm is junk (or you don’t know how to set up it well).

Trying over 60 different carts on 15 different tonearm over the years I can remember only ONE cartridge with terrible tracking abilities, it was low compliance Ortofon SPU, I returned this sample to the shop, I think it was a defective unit.

If you want a bad ass bass response you need a 12" inch single, not an LP version. When they cut 12" inch there is one ONE track per side, it can be louder and better, a high modulation require more room on vinyl surface.

If you’re looking for a turntable buy yourself brand new $1700 SL1200GR or cheaper $900 mk7

Rega is awful and overpriced turntable in my opinion.