Top 5 Tonearms Newer or Vintage Under 2500 That Will Beat anything above/below 2.5k?

terry9

Yes, the Trans-Fi is an air bearing tonearm, a low pressure tonearm

Terry9
From the manufacturers website.

Terminator splits the Horizontal & Vertical components using 2 different bearings, air for the horizontal movement, & a mechanical Twin Point Pivot bearing for the vertical.

Sounds to me like it is not a full air bearing, but a multi - bearing tonearm of Air and Mechanical bearings.
DG (Dave) explained to me years ago that it's like a sled.
   

OP (Vinny55)
The criteria also to be met are easy setups for all angles vta vfa azimuth anti skating etc
The Tonearm must also the ability to use more than just one or two cartridge compatibility.

There is only one tonearm mentioned on your thread that has VTA on the Fly without changing set up parameters like VTF. If that's important. Antiskate not needed.


@Raul - the OP indicates his TT preference in the original post. 

Raul - my post was based only on the text I showed which are real requirements. See that text.

This is for Raul’s clarification.

Raul - it is my opinion that when people post on AudioGon each of us have a different way of interpreting posts and what we end up focusing on.

When you referenced me Raul, you focused on these OP words.

This is the OP thread statements:
" Top 5 tonearm list that are known for their musical superlatives in all music ranges and genres? including finer detail nuances feeling, 3d sound but also deep bass and midbass, basspunch. Airy highs. And importantly long hours listening without fatigue. ""

TT preference?. Both things makes no sense.

I focused my one post comment to different OP text.

The criteria also to be met are easy setups for all angles vta vfa azimuth anti skating etc
The Tonearm must also the ability to use more than just one or two cartridge

and I told you in my second post that my comments were based on the "real" OP requirements. Let me clarify this.

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I’d like to use Nandric (Nikola’s) previous post word of "Enumeration".

So ...it is my opinion that in Vinny55’s enumeration of tonearm requirements, as documented in his original post, that I reference above, that we come up with 6 real requirements. (tonearm features he sees necessary in a tonearm).

Easy setups for 1) all angles 2) vta 3) vtf 4) azimuth 5) anti skating etc
6) The Tonearm must also the ability to use more than just one or two cartridge compatibility

^^^^^ 6 real requirements / features needed.

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Raul, the words that you are focusing on highlight how he would like the music to sound to him. These are his targets, not yours, not mine. I am merely saying, and understand this; that if he chooses tonearms that have the 6 features, he should be able to tailor the sound to his liking in his room. This is after all not digital, it is vinyl. With every angle change of the stylus in the groove, the resulting vibrations get altered. The sound is very tweakable in a resolving system kit.

We make a lot of assumptions on threads especially when members do not show a virtual system to let us know what he owns. Shame on Vinny55.

My comments assume he will combine the tonearms with a good cartridge and table , and the downstream components are in a room that is set up good. Alot of assumptions.

The tables mentioned in his thread. Garrard 301/401, Lenco, Linn, Thorens 124, Technics 1100 1200 10 or 15.

This discussion needs another thread. This is IMO because anyone I know who uses these tables... these days..... has done extensive modifications to them. Many are no longer recognizable from their stock form. This does not apply to cartridges and tonearms.

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Why not just unfollow (don’t read) the poster that irritates you. No need to ignore the whole thread. Anyone that is, or was married for XX years has a highly developed system of filtration
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Vinny55 - fwiw - re: Raul’s bantering. Replying back will only encourage more. Your choice.

My personal opinion is that once a poster hits 1000 or so posts, any further posts should provide either good A) technical information based on their direct experiences or B) psychological support for Audiophiles (Music Lovers - imo - are well grounded and do not need this support). Laughter is a good form of psychological support.

Since Raul seems to want to turn this thread into a script that would befit a Mexican soap opera, I can only surmise that he is posting for the B category. I have to admit that when he uses the word "rockie" instead of "rookie" it cracks me up. Now I have seen him use the word "rookie", so there you go.

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Hey Raul - where was that party you referred me to. I did not get an invite.

 
rauliruegas
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re:VTA

fleshler
where it appears more critical to adjust is for differences in the LP cutting angles.

the angles that get cut into LPs  "the included angle" vary. The European cutting standard does not match the American one. What does this say about the same album title, one an American pressing, the other Dutch?
Every time the cutting stylus is changed (every 10 hours or so) the replacement stylus is never put in at exactly the same angle. Is the conspiracy growing? Ask the folks that cut the records. I have.

It is my opinion therefore that since the cutting angles vary, even with records of same thickness, that unless someone can tell me here on this thread, that they are able to visually see the angle of the cut in the record (the included angle), then VTA adjustment for those so inclined, should be done by ear, since the variables that exist outside that actual record - different rooms, gear and the way we hear, all factor in to what we will hear. Just remember your tonearm, due to physics will change VTF when you adjust for VTA. Differences heard may be due to this. VTF needs to be reset. Only one tonearm keeps VTF the same due to a patented system.

If someone is not VTA anal, and just wants to enjoy the music, use a stylus profile that is not as affected by VTA changes, like a Conical. Ask the cart manufacturer or retipper. You will hear less detail, however you can adjust for tonality once, be done with it and enjoy your music.

Now about those folks that use USB Digital microscopes to set VTA.....