To Tube or not to Tube......


For quite some time now I've been thinking about switching from a solid state to a tube power amp. My Threshold T-100 has been real good to me and I do like it, but it's really the only "high-end" amp I've ever owned, so it's all I know. I'm intrigued by the "warm" sound of tubes and do have a tubed phono amp and CD player, but I am by no means well-versed in the sound of tube power amps having never really auditioned one. I know that goes against the prevailing wisdom and I should listen before I buy, but I don't think I will have the luxury of doing that.

That being said, I've gone through about 20 pages of this forum reading about the benefits and detriments of tubed power amps but nothing I've read has swayed me either way. The posts I've read have been informative re: bias issues, reliability, blowing fuses or whatever else might blow up or go wrong with the tubs, etc. So, if I were to go the tube route, I would not want deal with too much of that hassle. At lease I know that the amp I have doesn't have any such issues. That's why I was leaning toward amps like BAT with their auto biasing (I also need balanced inputs), and would want at least 60-100 wpc. I would be willing to deal with adjusting bias so long as it was a relatively simple process.

I figured I would pose my main question to the exerts here (and this I did learn for this forum): given what I already have in my system, what tube amp would be a good match for me? My pre-amp is a SS Threshold, JM Lab speakers with a "minimum impedance of 4 Ohms," EAR 834P phono stage, & Unison tube cd player.
Much appreciated.
ebuzz

Showing 8 responses by mikirob

Save yourself a lot of $$$ and follow Wolf's advice; he is a wise person, as well as fellow musician, who knows the difference between SS and Tube reliability. Wolf's thoughts echo my thoughts, brothers, father, mother, and nephews, all musicians. Best of luck.
There are many unsound ideas tossed about when discussing tubes vs SS. Wolf, again, hits nail on head.
Had the ARC in the past. If it were me, I'd go Jolida. The ARC, to my ears in my room was lean, with a dry, whitish sound. Not my cup of Joe.
Ebuzz, generally speaking, I want a similar sound that you desire. Jolida should do that for you. A while back I owned, for my office, a little Jolida FX10 EL 84 integrated. At the time, for $425.00, it punched way beyond its price point and gave me the type of sound you mentioned above. At 10 watts yet. People didn't believe it until they heard it. Of course I had to roll some NOS tubes to get what I wanted. But Jolida was to me a surprisingly good product and company. Seriously, I'd rather listen to FX 10 than the ARC.

Charles1Dad, yes, I agree from what you write that we have similar tastes in how music should sound. I've owned a lot of stuff over the years and envy, it a good way, your Coincident system. When our house is finished I'm likely going to pull the trigger on Coincident. I tend also to agree with what Salvatore says concerning the Coincident 300B. I had the Golden Tube set-up Salvatore liked so much back in the day. I also sold a Golden Tube 300B non-mono. It was also pretty good. Best.
Unsound, I think the problem period Gordon Jolida was before the current team located to Maryland. And, Underwood Wally is an outstanding seller of this brand and others. A straight shooter.
Almost all my speakers are efficient, 92db or better, 8 Ohm nominal impedance. The only way to go IMHO. I believe speaker manufacturers took a wrong turn with the low efficiency plus 4 Ohm impedance.

As soon as my new house is complete with dedicated listening room I intend to buy Coincident speakers or something like them. Perhaps Daedalus? Big Tannoy? I'll be on the hunt.:)