To horn or not to horn

I think that a listener's preference for horns (assuming that they are good ones) will be in good part based on how much they value realistic dynamics, and the sense of ease that horn loudspeakers display.

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Trust me, conventional xover tweeters do not offer much of anything good, AT least not when you A/B trad tweets next to a  horn tweet. 
IMHO the FR and compression drivers will be the only drivers used in audiophile speakers. 
Its just a  matter of time.
All speakers under 91db  requiring xovers will be deleted and go the route of the Dinasaurs. 
Its only a  matter of time before old  crusty and hadened ideas will die away.
Audiophiles think the world of their speaker,, Then when they geta  cahnce to A/B their <,beloved>> speaker next toa  FR+ TI Horn combo,, its at this point they know they;'ve been <Had>> all the years, Scammed,  = Sold on  snakeoil

You might want to read my forum...Horn Speaker Suggestions.  I went through a very long process before deciding on horn speakers.  Never in a million years did I think I would end up with horn speakers.  I listened to tons of very high end non horn speakers before deciding on Viking Acoustic Grande Voix speakers.  What sold me was the clarity of sound. I love hearing each instrument and that is what horn speakers do for me.

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I have this hunch Horns will work for me.
Days ago, i got ina  6.5 FR and hooked it up without cabinet!!!! next to the Seas Thors 
Like night and day. 
The SEAS line of drivers  are out dated, = Dinasaurs next toa  FR. Scan Speak drivers also, out dated, Dinasaurs.
FR is the only speaker i could ever listen to, I needa  horn for top end.
Richard Gray just wrote saying he loves horns for what they do right, but hates horns for what they do bad =???? 
Have no idea what Richard is trying to say.
Traditional tweeters  <91db below) will not work for me, hate em,. 
IMHO a  speaker has to be at the very least 91db. Which means 90% of the conventional/traditional xover speakers will not work for me.
I thought the world of my SEAS Thors 87 db, ,,then the FR 6.5 blew em away.
My guess is horns will blow away any ribbon/cone tweet.
I've read comments bashing horns, yet these critics can not give one substantial reason why NOT horns.. its all blab, blab blab. 
Their 2 cents won't buy a  Star Bucks cup of coffee thats for sure.
I'm going horn tweet.  For all its good and bad, it will beat out any Scan Speak, SEAS high priced tweets, by a mile.
The Golden Rule in speakers is <<<SENSITIVITY>> Sens is EVERYTHING. The higher the sens, the superior the voicing. 
This ain't rocket science folks. 
I am speaking about using tube (push pull, SET etc)amps  , this does not concern ss amplification. 

if you have sweet sounding amp,go for horn speakers:)

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Yes Sir, Here I have the incredible Jadis Defy 7 modded with new Mundorf SESGO caps, F&T caps, Takman Metal resistor, Tele front tubes,,running all that beauty through,,SEAS Thors>>> 
Its like a  wet blanket over the THors next to the FR 6.5. 
The Thors did have some magic, but its so recessed, very IN-Efficient at 87 db. 
The FR is 93db
Made a  world of difference. 
1 FR 6.5 vs Seas Dual 6.5's + the world fmore Millennium tweet, Yet the FR 6/5 did more than hold its own, it far surpassed the Thors.
Sensitivity is <<everything>> in speakers. Ifa  speaker is lower than 92db, forget,,well ok, 91db cut off point. This 91db excludes nearly the complete catalogue of the 2 top names in speakers, SEAS ad Scan Speak.
Both companies  will go the way of the dinasaur if they fail to come around to FR and compression drivers. 
Seas offers a  single FR at $800 EACH!!! Redicilous 

Klipsch won’t do it, and I speak from experience.

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Klipsch doesn't impress there ears as well

I have never owned a horn speaker. I’m curious if there are any who are first time horn speaker owners after having owned other types of speakers for many years, and are you glad you switched?
needlebrush04-20-2020 2:14pm~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Richard Gray just today, lent me his old 1960's Magnoxov horn tweeters,
WOWWWW
SOLD
Sold off my Millennium tweeters lasty week, BRAND NEW for $300 pair./ships free.sold in 1 hour on ebay
I'll never ever consider any done wteeter ever again  in my entire life.
Been there DONE that.
Horns RULE!
Now which horns?
Only musical ones should be considered.
I listen close field, small room, so the massive JBL's will not work for me. 
 The Magnovox 1963 hasa tiny alnico magnet, I mean thats all I need. 
All I need now is a midrange horn. 
I have bass with dual W18E001's, 
Richard just added a  2.2uf Mundorf SESGO cap to the 10uf Supreme Silver Gold OIl (Not EVO Supreme, only Supreme ), and man, did that added 2.2 EXPOLDE the bass.
These Mundorf SESGO caps in bass xovers are just incredible.
The added 2.2 brings the W18's down from 1900 hz to 1600 hz. 
Perfect. 
If I can finda  quality midrange horn, this set up
Dual W18E001 + Mid Horn + Tweet horn , might very well give the Voxativ AC1A FR driver a 
~~Run for its money~~~
I'm serious.
But i know fora  fact the Vox8 will win out, This W18/Horn combo will hold me over til I get some cash for the Vox AC1A
I havea  Davidlouis 4 inch FR arriving any day. 
It will be the Horns vs the davidLouis 4 inch FR for mids highs...
I will keep everyone posted on this shootout.
A good musical horn tweet will blow away any done tweet in the world, Including SEas $9k diamond dome tweeter

mozartfan781 posts04-13-2021 10:25am

The FR is 93db
Made a world of difference.
1 FR 6.5 vs Seas Dual 6.5's + the world fmore Millennium tweet, Yet the FR 6/5 did more than hold its own, it far surpassed the Thors.



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Don't listen to my previous post.
I was completely wrong. The Diatone chinese 6.5 FR was a  disaster.
Completely worthless. Oh sure it does do things the Seas Millennium can ' not accomplish. 
But the Diatone off Ebay really stinks. 

Sloppy bass, highly distorted midfs, completely rolled off highs.
This Magnovox horn from 1963 , blows away any dome tweet, Any/all, every last one.
Horns RULE!

willgolf533 posts04-20-2020 9:26pmYou might want to read my forum...Horn Speaker Suggestions.  I went through a very long process before deciding on horn speakers.  Never in a million years did I think I would end up with horn speakers.  I listened to tons of very high end non horn speakers before deciding on Viking Acoustic Grande Voix speakers.  What sold me was the clarity of sound. I love hearing each instrument and that is what horn speakers do for me.

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Just curious
were any high tech WBers (aka fullrange point source) speakers in your exp vs the horns?
Names of labs you heard.
Such as Fostex, Mark Audio, AER, Voxativ, DavidLouis, Tang band,  Cube and others.

My tech geek also forwarned  me to avoid Klipsche horns. 
He also gave me 2 thumbs down on a  horn system. 
So thats thats. 
Stickin with my WBer things. I have zero complaints about my WBers. 
Every speaker/design has +'s and then the =-'s.
My WBers have no _'s, unless you want to make 20hz-40hz a  requirement and 12khz+++ a  requisite. 
Then  thats 2 strikes. 
I hear them as Grand Slamers.  1st pitch.