Time To Replace Tubes?


I was wondering when do you guys decide to change your tubes?Are there any indications to listen for to know that you are at the end of your time with a set of tubes short of them blowing up on you?
I have a Wright 3.5 that has the 2a3,6sn7 and 5y3 rectifier tube in it.I was using a set of NOS Brimar's in the 6sn7 position.Recently i started thinking my mids were not there in my system and thought that my newly acquired modwright Sony 999ES may have been part of the problem.Well on a whim i swapped back in the stock EH6sn7's that came with the amp.I have very low hours on those tubes as i put the Brimars in not long after getting the Wright's.WEll my lordy the soundstage became huge and warm and just awesome just with swapping back in those EH's.
Maybe they just work better synergistically with the Modwright player i don't know.Maybe the Brimars are still fine but sounded lean with this player?
But back to my original thought on this is there something you can audibly listen for when you know your tubes are going?
Now i wonder if replacing the 2a3 or the 5y3 will bring even more sonic gains?It sounds incredibly better now just with that 6sn7 swap.I was looking into new speaker wire and possibly a tube preamp and here all i really needed to get those mid guts were to put back in those EH's.I'm loving that too cause they are a heck of alot cheaper then the NOS route.
What a pleasant surprise!! : )
seekburk

Showing 3 responses by jax2

In your case you don't need anyone to tell you it's time to change those tubes, or that one is better than the other; you figured it out on your own with your own ears. I don't think NOS is always necessarily better than current production. There's plenty of fine late production tubes out there that sound swell...even better than NOS in some cases, as you've found out. That's not to say there may not be an NOS 6sn7 that bests the EH you like...just that the Brimar's you have don't sound as good to you (they may sound good to someone else though...stranger things have happened). The other way to tell if and when tubes need replacing is to have them tested by someone with a tube tester, or buy one yourself and test them. Obvious signs fo failing tubes are noises like pops and clicks and or rushing sounds. Familiarize yourself with typical tube-life you may expect from the various types you use. I did like the late production Sovtek 2a3 tubes in the Wright 3.5's. I think that's the one tube Sovtek actually does a good job with (haven't liked any of their other tubes I've heard). I hear the NOS RCA's do a good job for 2A3's but you will have to pay some large coin for a good pair. Some company is also making some 300B's that run at 2.5 volts to be a drop-in replacement for a 2A3. You should probably check with George if you want to try that. No experience there. I think swapping any of the tubes has the potential to alter the sound. Probably the least potential would be in the 5y3 rectifier, not to say that it wouldn't have any potential. My experience with those amps tell me that the other two tubes have more impact. YMMV as always.

Marco
Seeburk - I'm not sure if there's a TubeTesterForDummies, rand most that I know of are quite old. I use a BK707 and, though it does take some getting used to, it can be very versatile. Unfortunately it will not test the larger 2A3 and 300B tubes. On the other hand the price of a good tester spans a large range depending on where you happen to find it. You can find one at a garage sale or auction for $50, or one here on A'gon for $500. Supply and demand. Be aware that some tube testers actually utilize a tube in their circuit. Also it would be good to find one that has been somehow confirmed accurate or recently calibrated/adjusted.

George certainly knows his tubes. You should see his NOS stockpile. I don't think that means that he necessarily provides the very best tube for the purpose with his amps, nor does any manufacturer that I know of. That would be a very expensive proposition in most cases, although it would seem to make sense given it would make their product sound better. I think to stay $ competitive, no one does it. Probably the Sovtek and EH that he does provide are damn good bang for the buck. I think the Sovtek 2A3 is one of the few tubes that company does very well. I think I settled on some JAN 6SN7's in mine, but I don't recall what else I rolled with them.

Marco
Hey Stew - How do you like the Mono 10's you got? Are they working out for you in your system?

Marco