Time to get things straight.


Every person that states the Technics 1200 is THE best TT in its price class risks himself to getting Flack from the belt drive crowd. I have posted that Thorstens speaks highly of it and here's some of his quotes as posted in the Asylum:

"And yes, the 1200 with a better arm is dynamite. Even stock with minimal tweaks it's an easy Rega P2/3 killer."

"So don't knock it if you don't know it. A Rega Planar is a cheap bearing and Motor stuck into a piece of MDF, the engineering content for all intents is ZERO. The only worthwhile thing on the Rega is the Arm."

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And from Steven Rochlin:

"Hmmmm... I DO AGREE that the 1200 does not have the overall "ultimate" PRAT of my VOYD setup (or a finely tweaked Linn LP12), though overall it really does have nice, smooth, consistant PRAT that blows away even the $20k+ Goldmund Reference and the like. Maybe the 1200 does not the worlds best PRAT, but DARN good. Over 10,000 dance clubs around the world prove it virtually every night."

"The Technics SL-1200 in its various offerings are EXCELLENT!!! Do not listen to those "belt drive only" folks. Wonder if they know that the highly praised Goldmund STUDIO turntable was direct drive? Anyway, the 1200 is probably THE BIG BARGAIN in turntable land. Great motor, good platter, built to take a lickin' and keep on tickin' (with apologies to Timex, whose watches ALWAYS broke after a month for me).

"Over the MANY years I have used more than i care to remember 1200 tables at MANY clubs. They ALL worked flawlessly and even after all the, er, um, abuse of back scratching and needle dropping and vinyl dropping they just kept going and going. IMHO there is pretty much nothing on the new market under $800 that comes near the 1200 in speed stability, drive, and overall PRAT (pace, rhythm and timing). Given the right needle i can only see great things UNTIL you get the upgrade itch and go for a used Linn LP12 or VOYD. Besides, what other "audiophile" table would you play Led Zeppelin backwards to hear all those Satanic messages? Oh how about ELO backwards to hear the secret message?"

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Wake up, people!!!

So much for glass and particle board...
psychicanimal

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I'm with TWL,ya what he said, and as for the rest of you guys saying can't we all get along and say whatever the other guy has is ok for him and it's about the music. I say this is Audiogon, if you do a search this is what you will find
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High end audio right, not Rolling Stone magazine, It's about trying to reproduce our music the best we can within the constraints of our budget. If getting the best out of your stereo is not your thing, then what are you doing here?

People have different opinions that are based on their experiences. That is why we have these discussions so we can help each other learn how to improve our systems, for less money,and do it right the first time. I have learned alot here and my Stereo is sounding a lot better thanks to Tom W. Lyons

Yes we also talk about the music we love here as well.

If you can't understand why Bose speakers are overpriced then you need to do some research on this site instead of making posts.

People go to Circuit City and Best Buy and spend a good sum of cash on midfi, when if they had more knowledge of what was out there or here at Audiogon, could be enjoying Hi fidelity instead,
that's my point.

David,yes most times in these cases as TWL has learned it is better to stay silent. But alas, sometimes you read something so ridiculous your conscience will not let you stay silent.

About the Bose 501, yes I agree they were a good speaker in their day, times have changed, but Yamaha speakers were never any good.

Psych, I have never said I think the Creature is a bad Turntable, in fact I belive it sounds good. I have in the past told people asking 1200 questions to contact you and Zaikeman for your mod ideas.

What's the matter Psych, did I hit a nerve?
You are now starting to resort to abuse.

well guys, peace and love.
happy listening,
Ron
Psych, you need to read this thread, sorry I thought you had seen it already.
Strange Tonearm Tweak. Long
See what did we tell you Dennis. Glad you made a choice you are happy with. (but the creature is a good sounding table)
What arm and Cartridge did you end up with.
I forgot what phono section are you using?
Now we have it straight,consider this thread closed.,end of line.....................................................................................................................
I love that Supratek and at this point if I ever get the cash together thats the one for me. I havent heard it, but from all the good things I hear about it on agon, sounds like a winner.