Thoughts and suggestions please


I only stream and have spent 3 years building my playlist. I have recently been thinking about purchasing my playlist on Qobuz in the event something happens (they go out of business or some major crash) that would lose what I have spent so much time building. Is this a concern for others as well? If I do decide to purchase my list I would need a new streamer with storage capacity. I am looking for suggestions for streamers. I have an N130 node now with Teddy Pardo LPS. I like the BluOS app and am considering a new Node with storage but with all the positive feedback with Innuous and Aurrender I will strongly consider those too. Do their apps compare favorably with the BluOS app? I’d like to stay in the 3-5k cost range.  Thank you for your thoughts. 
 

Ron 
 

 

 

ronboco

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@ronboco 

1K song playlist is about right. I have been burning CD's for many years and when I first started, I created a number of playlists separated via genre or decades. Then I became aware that multiple playlists will require more work, so they all became one. 

While I have 120 GB of 120 KHz / 24 bit tracks, I really only listen to those 1K songs. Sure, I add new music - usually found on YouTube, the Radio, or a Music store - and mix it up frequently to keep it fresh, but 1,000 songs represent 72 hours of music and around 7 Gigs of music. We humans have limits, and while there are exceptions to every rule, if everyone had 1K of their favorite songs on tap (to listen to free of charge), the majority would be happy. It is a sweet spot.

My local record store charges $5 per CD and provides me with $2 credit when I bring it back, so the CD cost is $3. Many times only one song off a CD makes it to my playlist, so if you are paying $3 per song for a high resolution file, then that is a fair price, at this time.

Gen Z and Millennials are the ones who are buying physical music media, not the older folks like myself who grew up with it. A lot of older folks here are under the suspicion that we and only we are supporting vinyl and CD mediums. Simply a fallacy. Sales of CD's and Vinyl has risen in the past 15-20 years. Society has not changed, young people require some place to congregate and record stores are at the top of the list. If you live in an urban area, record stores are inundated with young folks; not old geezers. The one I frequent is owned by a not so rich 20-something who knows her trade and is supported by the local music scene. Very much like the 1980's but with more music to choose from.

Streamers cost money. Adding a streamer will require another shelf and cable - much like a computer and USB cable (assuming you have a DAC) only cheaper. The laptop I use costs $150. The AudioQuest carbon USB cable ($170) that connects your laptop to DAC and is the only other one-time cost. And yes, I have an external hard drive for backup but that could just be a nano USB stick for $20 if you want it to be. They work great in vehicle USB ports.

The costs of streaming are guaranteed to rise. Monthly service costs of TV and Music is going to skyrocket in the next 10 years because competing factions in music streaming are fighting for for their rights - to own more music than the other - which then qualifies for a higher cost to the consumer. If you live long enough, you need to consider what capitalism does to the consumer. If you have ever owned a company, you know first hand what capitalism does to your business - every vendor will raise their prices year over year. Nature of the beast.

It should be of no surprise that many young people are turning to physical media. Owning for renting is a well known issue with humans. Nearly all of us would rather own. And while vinyl costs are rising, that lends itself well to being an asset in the future. My vinyl -most of which was purchased in the last 15 years- is worth far more now than what it was. Go figure. Did not see it coming, but I am not complaining.

Figure this. If you were to pay $20 for a high resolution streaming service, that equates to $240 per year. In contrast, that amount equates to a quantity of 80, $3 CD's, about like adding 7 CD's per month to your collection. I struggle to find that many CD's of new music each month. As for vinyl, I have about 1,200 records and do not buy much anymore due to the fact that I feel there is little left out there for me to enjoy with vinyl. Digital files are super convenient and can be transported with ease making it superior in all ways except the betterment of sound.

 

@audphile1 

Good God ya'all, I have paid musicians so many numerous times over my 50 some years that it has manifested into some "irksome" dislike for some of my music heroes. Some of it feels like a corporate scam okay'd by millionaire musicians who need a new beach home.

From the changing of mediums; late 70's 8-tracks; 80's cassettes and a few LP's if I had the money; to CD's and what amounted to about 8K in LP purchases in the last 10 years, I have paid over and over again to musicians - many for the same dang record. And don't get me started on remastering (and some that are so poorly remastered that I feel it was simply a con to use the marketing term in the sales pitch). That list is long and the term "remastered" has been used as a cudgel to illicit additional funds from the same fans. 

I am sure everyone has a particular musician (?) in mind when it comes to how much money you may have spent paying for his or her catalogs in numerous mediums and formats,  but Neil Young comes to mind for me. Why his offerings are that much more than other artists offerings has kind of rubbed me the wrong way.

When it comes to new music, everyone must pay. Recently purchased the new Doobie Brothers CD, and an LP from a great new indie group called, "Wet Leg". Nearly all my purchases of LP's nowadays are new. So while I build a digital collection of older music in various formats, analog purchasing will always be money in the pocket of those hard working folks bringing us new music. I am cognizant about my spending habits to ensure I support musicians. 

I simply asked AI on demographics of physical music purchasing and if it is trending up or down and even I was surprised at how growth in the industry is escalating despite most folks on this site suggesting that both CD & Vinyl being on their deathbeds. Been hearing that for years, only to be told that it is false. Maybe collecting music will never go the way of beanie babies or longaberger baskets.

Guess you are either bearish or bullish on keeping a hold of your physical mediums, but in the end, streaming is throwing money away while throwing pennies into the pockets of musicians. Those that choose streaming services are the ones who choose not to support musicians.