This is for Georgehifi especially but others can chime in.
This is for Georgehifi especially but others can chime in. Trust me, you would have received a response from Georgehifi regardless of whether or not the post is especially for him. :) Just injecting a little humor :) No doubt about it that @georgehifi is a rather knowledgeable go-to person on the forum. |
looks like someone told the truth so the mods removed his postActually, it was @onhwy61 post and mine directly after that was removed. And yes, there was nothing but truth stated. Keep in mind it was just opinion anyway. I believe (not sure and could be mistaken) the reason the posts were removed had something to do with an erroneous determination on audiogon's part (likely programmatic with non-human intervention) that the posts were spam related. |
Regarding the two posts that were removed, I’m pretty certain that the reason for their removal had nothing to do with the thoughts they were intended to convey, but instead was because the first one contained an expletive, and the second one began by quoting the contents of the first one, including the expletive. Very resourceful of you as always @almarg to retrieve the data via google. However, I must disagree with the rationale you offer for the removal of said posts. Consider what in my view is compelling evidence to the contrary. Any one of the words - including abbreviated words, acronyms and quotation - used in my post and that of Onhwy61 which could even remotely be viewed as expletive appear in numerous other posts throughout this forum. BTW, my compliments to Gdhal for what I consider to be apt use at the end of his post of a phrase made famous in the 1990s by former Federal Reserve chairman Greenspan. Thank you. |
What I can say is that every single time I have seen what are sometimes referred to as "four-letter words" in a post here, or lengthier words which include those four letters in the same sequence (as was the case in the two posts which were removed from this thread earlier today), the post has subsequently been removed. Al - I'll remain mindful of your advice in any future posts of mine. OP - Apologies for any inadvertent diversion that I may have caused. |
Whenever I hear that one component "KILLS", "DESTROYS" or otherwise "OBLITERATES" another component my bullshit detector goes off. Am I the only one? Others can chime in. No, you’re not the only one. Same here. Once a certain performance level is attained it just isn’t possible for one component to annihilate another. Often times its a matter of preference, not better or worse. Edit: But you certainly could find better or worse measurements, technical data and that sort of thing. But measurement data sometimes belies how a component may sound. Also, in this "hobby", the tendency is that the slightest incremental improvement can be hard to come by and pricey at that. So all of those verbs may simply be a variant of irrational exuberance. |
All - I must digress. I have been in contact with Audiogon support regarding the removal of my post. Proof of the following response is evidenced by the reappearance of my post dated 01-11-2018 12:30pm. Their response is as follows. "I reviewed both of your post and they should not have been removed. Have no idea how and why that happened." That gives credence to my original assertion as to to why they were initially deleted. Spam. Within the realm of spam, it was detected erroneously and programmatically, without human intervention. The original post by @onhwy61 can also be restored. Thank you. |
Yes having other speakers in the room does negatively affect the sound somewhat, but when a client auditions a set in our show room they will understand these interactions and know that the speakers will sound even better in their own roomsThis is only one reason why I previously stated in another thread "Moreover, many dealership rooms are setup like crap..." (https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/not-enough-options-for-auditioning-speakers/post?highlight=%2...) Dave, you don't need more naysayers, but I've found the problem with multiple speakers in a room goes beyond the interaction they have with one another. Invariably the *placement* of the speakers are severely compromised. If there is any conciliation in how you have your showroom setup (and I haven't seen it), I know you're not the only dealer that has many speakers in the same room. Given the price point of the gear you are demonstrating, wouldn't it behoove you (and all other dealers please take note of this question) to have a *dedicated sound room* with no equipment in it at all, and then populate the room with whatever equipment is being demoed at that particular moment? Granted, this is a major inconvenience to cart equipment to and from, in and out, etc., however, this would be for customers (potential customers) who are looking to drop say 50K+. |
"...have a *dedicated sound room* with no equipment in it at all, and then populate the room with whatever equipment is being demoed " @kalali Excellent point, and I have no disagreement about the short term memory. However, doesn't my suggestion (empty room populated as needed) still beat the alternative (cluttered room) from the standpoint of equipment evaluation? |
My post criticizing Audiotroy for taking over and dominating threads for salesmanship here was removed. I don’t know why as there were no curse words nor were there insults. I had the same experience in this particular thread. My posts were subsequently restored after I checked in with Audiogon support. In my case there was no definitive explanation, but it was not because of expletives. The most likely culprit was programmatic spam detection. George's explanation is also a possibility, but in that case Audiogon support should be able to let you know. |
Ball is in your court. Tell me all that you know I’ll show you Snow and rain Bird Song Lyrics: Robert Hunter Music: Jerry Garcia Gdhal, there is no such thing as fact in audio when it comes to human ratings as the determiing factor. Fair enough. I'm neutral (not agreeing or disagreeing). |
