Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
jafant

ronkent

Have fun attending the Live Audio Advice show today.

 

Happy Listening!

mchan888

Stay tuned until one of our CS 7.2 experts chimes in to address your query.

 

Happy Listening!

mchan888 - Gary Dayton at Coherent Source Service would have the definitive answer.

More generally, I doubt that a black-centered driver is original. The CS7 had a black woofer with a donut-like center. The 7.2 had a white driver with white dustcap. The 7.2's drivers were new, built in-house and not merely upgrades of the 7s, so mix-match of parts is unlikely.

Let us know what you find out.

Sorry for the long delay in replying after my visit with Duramaxa747 but I took some time to exfoliate my soles and search for the ever elusive scaphella junonia and manufacture some cholecalciferol. You should try this some time, it's very relaxing.

Now back to what you came here to read about.
 
The Duramax747 Session:
First I would like to Thank you Duramax747 for being such an awesome host and the kind words, he is a man of very high caliber himself and it was my honor to meet you.
As far as the heat, well its just something you live with and was something we couldn't control, not to say we didn't try but it was still a good time.
The discussions did wander all over the place like two kids in a candy shop, not sure which one was the most excited about the session (me) but we had fun and learned a few things during the exchange.
My original intent was to offer an exchange for both Duramax and myself, he would get to experience how well the CS 7.2 would work with McCormack amps, not that he neede to fret that any with what he has in his stable. I would get to experience the CS 7.2 to see if I wanted to move up the line from my current CS 6's.There's  a little something not as well pronounced in a certain region to my ears.
I had both a stock pair of monoblock DNA-1's and a pair of monoblocks 0.5's with Platinum + upgrades from Steve McCormack from 2012 for the listening session, we never made it to the stock DNA's.
The CS 7.2's have the information or clarity that I was was looking for and was fairly certain I was going be on the hunt for a pair of CS 7.2's, but after discussing with Duramax747 my requirements for the future it looks like I my be on the hunt for a pair of CS 2.4's, more research required for certain.
 
The Room:
I must say that Tomthiel is on to something with the room design and Duramax747 did an outstanding job of implementing that design. I won't go into any more detail than what Duramax has already said here on this forum other than it works.
The room has a rapid decay to an utterly dead silence but not so silent that it's uncomfortable to be in, you could sit in the room for hours and read and not become unnerved. 
Duramax747's design aesthetics were implemented perfectly and would have high WAF acceptance factor, my wife even enjoyed the looks of the room. 
That decay really helps the CS 7.2's display sound in a natural way and allows you to hear into the recording environment, to me that is the underlying effect of a good room, the information is always there but obscured by the reflected information in the room. 
During the La Bamba tracks, the percussion could be felt in your pant legs and not just heard, yes I was wearing pants in the hot box. The other great thing about his room is it was not over driven, by this I mean that the sound was not over pressurizing the room.
It's one of those things you hear at audio shows all the time, Huge speakers in a small room and then the volume is cranked up to get the speakers to sound good, but it makes everything else in the room resonate and obscures the sound.
I have to do some work in my own room this fall and winter, talking with Duramax747 has given me some really good ideas that I plan to implement.
 
Drivers:
I wasn't sure if Tomthiel's rework of the crossovers would bring the clarity that I was looking for, the CS 7.2's have that clarity but the speakers could be a little too large for my room.
One of the other factors I have for my speakers is maneuverability. My wisdom is starting to show in my hair and I plan to retire in the coming years. With that said I realized I would not be able to maneuver 170 to 200 pound speakers around like I could when I wore a younger man's clothes. I know the CS 2.3 nor 2.4 drivers will not be able to be retrofitted into the CS 6's due to the front baffle design, the CS 6 and 7 series speakers' front baffle's were designed very rigid to prevent any driver vibrations from being introduced back into the cabinet.
With all that being said I will start researching the CS 2.4's, I think they may just fit the bill for what I'm looking for. My thinking is, CS 2.4's with Tomthiel's improvements plus the pair of Thiel SS 2 or Vandersteen 2Wq subwoofers, oh the joy of this hobby.
 
Question:
I would like to pick your brains on this.
With the Thiel SS 2's or Vandersteen 2Wq's being sealed subwoofers, would that be good enough to replicate the sealed enclosure of the CS 5's sealed woofer design? I'm wondering if that would be good enough to recreate the lower frequencies that Duramax and Tomtiel have been discussing here.
You guys let me know what you think. I know the 2Wq's worked well with my Vandersteen 3A Signatures.
 
I would like to say again, Thank you Duramax747 for being such a gracious host and the kind words, I look forward to our future exchange's.
 
My apologies for this turning into such a long winded dissertation, good thing I was trying to keep it short. 
 
And to extrapolate the first sentence, my wife and I went to Florida and walked the beach looking for a hard to find junonia seashell and make some Vitamin D, very relaxing and not audio related, shocking right.
 
Take Care.

@ig316b, A pair of subs that are well implemented would certainly help those speakers particularly in the bass region, but it will be nearly impossible to totally eliminate  a delay in a portion of the frequency response. No, you will not get the ultimate cohesive sound that sealed boxes like the CS 5’s provide.