Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
jafant

@jafant thanks!

To be clear, I have the small 0.5 and not the big 5 model, nevertheless they are unbelievable. 
Funny how the Copland CSA70 can efficiently power the LRS+ but not the CS.5.

After so many amplifiers it was the Kinki Studio combo that could show what these little Thiel can do! …also, they are 25+ years speakers that look and sound like new! 

audiofilo123 - the 'funny' part about your Copland amp comment is that Thiel speakers require current-source power rather than the ubiquitous voltage sources. An amp that will drive a Thiel, including your little CS.5s, should double its 8 ohm power rating into 4 ohms and at least 1.5x its 4 ohm rating into 2 ohms. 

The Copland might do well with higher impedance speakers, but not have the current delivery capability that your Thiels require.

Frustrating? Maddening? Yes. Solvable? Yes.

@tomthiel 

@jafant 

@unsound 

@duramax747 

 

Based on your feedback, am looking around in the area for a possible addition to my gear, that of a power amp that suits the 1.6's.  So far I have found:

Hafler Trans Nova 9505 and a Yamaha M80.  Both advertised at $1k and reported to be in great shape functionally and cosmetically.  Still searching...

 

@tomthiel you are probably right… although the Copland, despite not doubling the power at half the impedance, it is a amplifier designed for tough loads.
From the Hifi-News review:

…the CSA70 is a distinct, standalone amp in the range, capable of delivering 2x90W/8ohm and 2x140W/4ohm with sufficient headroom to sustain peaks of 110W, 206W, 352W and a full 475W (21.8A) into 8, 4, 2 and 1ohm loads, respectively [see Graph 1, below]. Add to this fine load tolerance a usefully low 0.01-0.07ohm output impedance and response that's flat to –0.3dB from 1Hz-20kHz (and –1.9dB/100kHz). 

Also the LRS+ are quite demanding, very evident after some listening test with very capable amps, but the Copland finally showed a very firm grip and sure footed performance.

But in the end it was the Kinki Studio combo that revealed everything (!) about the CS.5 capabilities. 
One question: what kind of speaker cable is recommended for the Thiels?

Thanks for the instruction on the Copland. What do you suppose accounts for the Kinki Studio superiority with Thiels?