Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
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vair68robert

12.5uF. Replaced with 8+4.7uF house-brand caps from Parts Express. Similar quality level as OEM as far as I can tell.

I did upgrade severely heat-damaged 10% sandcast resistors (one was open) with 1% wirewounds and bumped power dissipation from 10W to 20W and 25W to 40W respectively.

How resistors got that hot in a speaker crossover of all places is not something I can claim to understand, seeing that drivers appear original and in quite good shape without evidence of having been grossly overdriven in the past.

Devin - Thiel crossover schematics state the max tolerance of each cap. Some are 5%, some 10%. Among the strategies, I prefer to try for close to equal values when splitting. I've learned end-reversal via trials. E-caps are fundamentally symmetrical, but in fact the small differences, including lead-wire directionality, are audible and supported in the measurements. Music signal is AC, so optimizing for either direction produces mixed results; splitting directionality is always superior. 

By the way, Thiel's long-term cap brand was Solen. Their house sound is somewhat dark and smooth. We later went to ERSE for a more neutral, open signature. When they became unavailable, M.D.L (Taiwan) was chosen. and the final FST (China) cap was CYC. I use M.D.L from Madisound for classic late-Thiel signature.

My new layouts honor propagation waveform integrity. When splitting any cap, build a bundle that makes sense. If 3 caps, I build a triangle separated by cork pads, with the 1uF bypass in the middle of the bottom row. Air circulates through the whole stack. A unified field is floated around the 4 cap bundle. Trials prove this arrangement superior to other layouts. By the way in series feeds, the yellow 1uF Thiel bypass cap is replaced with our new multi-sectioned cap with multiple coaxial windings that start around 0.015uF and add up to the target value. Those will be available in 2025.

 

Hi all,

 

Might have the opportunity to pick up a pair of CS6s - incredibly excited to upgrade from the CS2s I got fifteen years ago.


I have a Hegel H360 (250 watts x 2 into 8 ohms, 420 w x 2 into 4 ohms). Is this sufficient to drive it well?

largeexpensiveboxes

Welcome!  Good to see you here today. Nice score on those CS 6 loudspeakers.

Stay tuned until one of our CS 6 Panel experts chimes in to address your query.

What other gear and cabling is in your System? Musical tastes?

 

Happy Listening!

tomthiel

Thank You for taking time to address constant Cap/Resistor upgrade options. Cross Over (XO) talk as well. I hope that you are well this Winter day in the NE.

 

Happy Listening!