Well, I managed it. If anyone reads this post the removal sequence is to remove the bottom with the x-over, unscrew the driver, unsolder the leads (remember where they hook up), pull out ALL the fiberglass (wear long sleeves and gloves!) but wait, there is a screw and washer going from front to back which holds the back part of the insulation, then the speaker will slide out. Now to test that sucker! If the drivers need to be replaced I may just scrap it for the good parts.