thanks bryhifi. just building now. have wadia 27ix/270 and like the 3.6's i've demo'd a lot. the room now is small but eventualy will be 1100 sqft or so. i've read so much about the 3.6's in combination with classe, krell, and ml, but never read any one who has hooked them up to rowlands, which as i understand are less dry, as you put it, than ml, and rowlands are on the list of amps that thiel recommends.