They know we will pay anything they can think of

How in the world a flagship product from many decades ago could be categorized non audiophile product today ? as my amplifier for example or my headphone...😁

Price is almost  IRRELEVANT in audio...I added the word  "almost" because there is quality difference for sure in design and negating this would be stupid to begin with...

Acoustic and basic embeddings controls are way more relevant...

😊 This is so evident i dont see another reason to oppose that than bragging about new branded name products...

My active speakers cost is 200 Bucks... They sound better than almost all headphones WHEN rightfully acoustically embedded and modified ( 6 modifications)...

A speaker box with porthole is an Helmholtz resonator... Take a bundle of straws of THE RIGTH DIAMETER AND VOLUME and compute with your ears/brain in few experiments, put this on the rear porthole, and i go from 85 hertz measured specs to 50 hertz; the timbre is more natural now and the imaging and soundstage include my listening position in nearfield better than almost all headphones at any price ... I call this box speakers audiophile now, thanks to basic acoustic...

Thinking that many speakers craftmanship designers are thieves who makes BIG money selling audiophile speakers is even if it was true a proof that they would be very bad thieves because one make money with vaccines or pharma drugs or banking or financials schemes , drugs and arms traffic, organ traffic etc not with audiophile speakers...😁

I dont even need to know the ratio of price parts cost versus the selling price to know that....

Most reputed speakers craftmanship is born of love not born from hubris...

The problem in audio is not the cost of ultra high end speakers; it is acoustic ignorance...

For sure some increase their price to sell luxury to rich people but it is not really crookery because these products overpriced are easy to spot...

You are creative and we made our luck by staying attentive...Congratulations...

Myself i need no more...

I know exactly how to upgrade, with what and for the best cost...

It is important to communicate these facts to help others not to throw money out of the windows in this difficult times...

My speakers modified sound more than good, i will pass for the B&W even it is a deal ... 😊

If someone does not want to quit listening all his music files it is done deal acoustically for me ...I owned 9 headphones, dynamic, electrostatic and planar; i prefer my 200 hundred bucks speakers acoustically well embedded... No company can say and teach simple acoustic truth they will lost half their market.... They prefer to propose costly "upgrades"...

By the way with the incoming world crisis, deals as this one will not lack...But who buy audio components in a world crisis ? I use music as a therapy...

I listen this right now ( i am not religious by the way ) this sound spectacular on my small modified boxes... and therapeutic as revelatory 😉 :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zENXZYhY_vs&t=4s

@mahgister

Time to become garage sale junkie driving around in pickup truck in the richest neighborhoods.

You can get everything there even cheaper.

I’m living example. I’ve forgotten path to hi-end dealer and I forgot an amazon and ebay link all together.

How about a couple of B&W N3 for $400 per pair MINT?

I created my acoustic room with plumber tubes from my basements for 100 Helmholtz resonators...

I used mechanical crossfeed to improve the holographic acoustic perception..

I used foldable screens as lenses and diffusors or absorbers or reflectors...And many other improvised devices at very low costs , a few bucks, nothing marketed as tweaks except springs and cheap Schumann generators i modified etc ...

I lost my room...

I dwelved then in my unloved 200 bucks small speakers i owned from 10 years ago or 12 and put them on computer function for all this time because i never bother to optimize them to begin with ...After the lost of my acoustic room i had no other choice nor any other speakers to work with save the unloved one ...

I transformed them with cardboard and straws and isolation and damping and i put them in a small acoustic corner of my basement ... They go now from their unsufficient 85 hertz to 50 hertz which is enough 😁... My best optimization control was wood plates beside each speakers to mechanically decrease crosstalk in near field listening now...

My system is so good in near listening i cannot quit the music imaging, timbre and soundstage...

This small box system is better than my past headphones, with the exception of my main audiophile system now headphone based...

How is the cost of audiophile experience ? Peanuts costs if you learn basic electrical, mechanical, and especially acoustical embeddings controls...

By the way i am not an engineerr nor a very talented craftworthy person.... .But many experiments cost nothing and acoustic is fun to learn in its basic...Forget equations, experiment with the simple principles behind the equations and dont bother for perfection...

We must learn how to hear using acoustic concepts applied...

Audio is like medecine , learn to know your body needs and stay away from doctors if not chirurgically necessary; and learn acoustic basics and stay away from audio marketing....

Many people prefer to pay than to learn because it takes time and they prefer the power of money to knowledge..... Marketers count on this to make money...

I’ve never called myself "we" even during communism and have seen stereo system built from scrap components (in Cuba) and sounding TERRIFIC.

Have you ever seen a card-board upright bass?