The "Very Best Record Cleaning Formulation"

As in all things that require a Specific Temperature Control for an application to take place. 

Both the Substrate and Coating Material are ideally in an environment that allows for both to be of a similar optimised Temperature. 

Failures of certain types of Coatings adhesive properties, when applied to a Substrate, are usually attributed to the Substrates surface temperature not being acclimatised/optimised to receive a Coating, as per the Coating Manufacturers guidance.

The Temperature for the coating material to be used must be  as per manufacturers guidance and the ambient temperature where the application occurs must be as per manufacturers guidance. 

Maybe the Coating Solution, Substrate to be Coated and Ambient Temperature are all required to be the 140 Fahrenheit. If so there are additional practices required as control measures if this solution is to be used as the ' Very Best' Record Cleaning Formulation. 

Maybe there are other solutions able to surpass this proposed one, when the alternative solution is being used at a more typical ambient temperature of 15-18 Celsius. 

There is plenty of methods seen in use to clean a Vinyl LP.

My methods for the Cleaning of  Vinyl LP, have evolved, and I can categorically state, that when adopting the Manual Cleaning Method as advised in the attachment, the end product, using the outlined mixtures for producing a solution, has by far, outperformed any other past cleaning methods that involved producing a solution to act as a cleaning agent.

PACVR-3rd-Edition

The outcome being, I now view a Vinyl LP as having been 'purified', that has undergone the PACVR Manual Cleaning Method, using a outlined mixture mixture to produce a cleaning solution.

It does seem there is an alternative mixture proposed by @wizzzard, to produce a cleaning solution, that can offer similar capabilities to the mixture to produce a solution found in the PAVCR from @antinn. I don't doubt in any way the capability of the solutions for lifting contaminant from within a LP's Groove.

Where I struggle, is with the notion, if I were to use either of the mixtures I am now aware of. One being the mixture in use produced following the @antinn guidance, or the solution under discussion and presented by @wizzzard.

Would there an an audible difference, that one could claim to be a betterment, as a discovery made from a subjective evaluation of listening to a Cleaned LP using either of the solutions and adopted cleaning method.

@antinn I once again thank you for your excellent support offered, that has lead to a transformation in how I perceive a Cleaned Vinyl LP.

@wizzzard Thank You for bringing this new to me and alternative mixture, to produce a cleaning solution. Curiosity of how it will impact on a cleaning process is now raised.

Due to my location, I have used BASF™ Dehypon® LS 54 nonionic surfactant. as a substitute for  Tergitol 15-S-9.

I see that  Tergitol 15-S-7 is the recommended substance within this thread.

As previous experience showed it was going to be expensive to acquire Tergitol, and it is not readily available in the UK. The acquiring the alternative Dehypon came with a large proportion of monies outlaid for the assembling the materials to enable the Manual Cleaning Method to be put in place.

I would be happiest if the Dehypon was identified as being usable with the mixture being proposed by @wizzzard. Acquiring the Ethanol as per the Purity suggested, is looking relatively easy, and is available at a fair cost. 

I invested in a accurate weighing scale, and would like to know the mixture in weight of grams of Dehypon per 220 grams of Ethanol, if this is considered a mixture worthwhile producing.  

@lewm There are two very experienced individuals now commenting on this thread.

I would like to be advised by either of these contributors, as I do intend on doing a trial between the two mixtures for a cleaning solution. The idea, that each constituent and ratio for it used in the mixture is recognised as acceptable.

It seems to me that only this type of preparation will cut it, and as long I use a repetitive cleaning method without creating cross contamination on the implements used, will be the next discipline, to offer an assurance control measures are being addressed. 

The option on the Vinyl to be cleaned can be done as two methods.

One is to purchase 2 x the same Vinyl LP as a New Item Purchase.

The other to search out 2 x same 'used' Vinyl LP and hope they have a similar timeline of usage, with being out of the protective cover for a similar period of time. This one will be very difficult to verify.

I also have Vinyl LP's that have been owned for 40ish years and have become very usable following the manual cleaning method. I do believe the PAVCR method successfully removed all residuals embedded into the LP from previous method used to carry out cleaning.

It would be interesting to learn if a change of solution, along with the same cleaning method, is able to produce a 'purification' that is perceived as being improved on the already very impressive condition achieved. Bearing in mind, after experiencing the end product of my most recent cleaning activities, I have completely abandoned the idea of a US Tank final rinse following the manual method, as I sense it can not add any further improvement, that would be audible.

I recollect, It was an edge of the seat ride producing the mixtures, the wanting to get the ratio as correct as my 'inexperienced person could' was high up the chain of importance. Hence, I bought a weigh scale that I believe does .001 or definitely .01 increments of a Gram.

Hopefully a new mixture ratio will be supplied for Ethanol and I get to carry out another procedure.    

As a means to prevent working at height, there is trend in Cleaning to Pole Clean with a Pressure Jet System using Carbon Fibre Poles  that can reach up to Five Storeys.

This method is commonly seen carried out using distilled water as it is a streak free drying substance..

Because of this there are plenty of cheap offers to be found for distilled water.

I have always trod carefully and purchased a Lab Grade Water, from recollection I believe conforms to PubChem CID 962, i'm also sure PPM were checked out as well. I genuinely have no idea, how my water conforms when being discussed by the likes of @wizzzard  

In the past I travelled/commuted with a Very well educated Lady, who had a Cambridge University Education and was at her time as a Student very involved with the Female Rowing Team.

On a commute and in a discussion with another about a medical condition, I invited this Lady to contribute as her Husband was a "Dr".

I was informed the Husband was "Dr" through being a mathematician and not medicine.

As the Journey continued, I probed the mathematics that were being carried out. To which the 'layman' description was given and now my not so accurate a recital of this description, that the area of maths worked with was a Speculative Math that was working with Astronomy.

Further probing revealed the Husband is nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize for the discoveries made.

I was the 'Cat that got the Cream' for a few days after that reveal.

I also learnt Professor Brian Cox regularly visits for dinner😎

As much as it may not be wanted, but at this stage not going to be obtainable to have.

This Thread is a being used by a proportion of contributors, including myself, as an    "in conjunction with content", to be used as an addition to other info attained for the purposes of Cleaning/Purification of a the Hard Medium Vinyl.

Prior to this Thread I had abandoned all previous used methods, which I substituted with the PAVCR Manual Cleaning Method, using the recommended volumes of substances for the mixtures to produce solutions to enable the cleaning to be achieved.   

This Thread focuses intently on a particular solution, made up from a mixture of very specific volumes of the recommended substances.

The Solution being presented has now brought about a situation where some fully comprehend the ideas behind it, as it has been a type of solution already put to use by a limited few contributors to the thread.

Others like myself do not fully grasp the reason for the specifics associated with the substances needed for mixture to produce the proposed Solution.

Speaking for myself I have a trust in the content and accept it to be a Solution that is optimised to perform a particular role, especially for penetrating deep into the Vinyl's groove and being able to release micron sized contamination.

Having this as a Solution to be at hand and used in conjunction with other clearly defined and easily understood methods that can be used, as advised in the PAVCR from Neil Antin, will in my view only add to the positive experiences that are attached to using Neil's advisories, which have proved to be extremely successful.

When it comes to cleaning Vinyl and achieving that moment, when it is realised, that a long owned LP, that was once relegated to sentimental ownership only, is now once again usable, without any concerns for it when being used as a replay medium.

All Solutions proposed to be capable of achieving this are met with a curiosity and attraction.     

My experience of Neil's guidelines on formulation of a Mixtures to produce a Solution to serve as a Cleaning Agent, does without doubt cause extraction.

The extraction I am experiencing is more details from within the Groove during a albums replay. 

@wizzzard In a previous post, there was a possibility made known, that a weight of BASF Dehypon LS 54 could be made known as an alternative to 15-S-7.

Is this still a info being pursued? 

@wizzzard Thank You for your recommending a method for producing a solution, that can be used as a alternative to my already in use PAVCR recommended solution, for the successfully used Manual Cleaning Method.

I will be considering this alternative mixture for the BASF Dehypon LS 54, and will work out the best method for myself to determine if there is more to be attained over a already tried and tested method, that has yielded substantial improvements over all other cleaning methods used.

I don’t see the need to be concerned that Tergitol S7 or Lutensol® LA 60 are not readily available.

It does seem Neil Antin has found the substance that is readily available in the UK.  

@wizzzard I agree as well, that the interest in audio equipment is offering the best experience  when kept with the focus on the replay of the recordings and the resulting emotions that can be evoked by the period of listening, of which one emotion stimulated can be enjoyment, but not limited to this only.

I do believe the term enjoying the music, has a broader meaning, which is more akin to suggesting one is their better self, if seen to be enjoying the Activity, Hobby, Avocation and not being in contention with the subject, especially not being able to show acceptance of the views and made known practices of fellow like minded enthusiasts. 

Contrary content will always be discovered, there are many variables and individuals are quite different in their experiences of being exposed to those variables, which will be instrumental in how the individual becomes moulded into their ideas about what has and does not have value. In Psychology would this not be a environmental impact, that has a effect on the development of a person. 

The interest in audio equipment is quite able for certain types, to open up parallel avenues of interest, especially in how the time spent listening to recordings can be experienced.

Seeking out methods to optimise the performance of the critical ancillaries to be used, is a extremely common practice by individuals interested in audio, for some it is very important stimulant and fits into their interest in replays of recorded music like a hand entering a well fitting glove.

Your thread is supplying a Topic on a Mixture to produce a Solution that is with claims to be an optimised solution for decontaminating a Vinyl LP.

Your academic education and chosen career and seemingly the Cornerstone of this thread.

Do keep in mind, in relation to this thread, that you are dealing with the 'short-term past' and the 'now'.

In the future there will be individuals from across the Globe, with a developing  interest in caring for their Vinyl Collection, discover this thread and like a 'duck to water', commence taking on board your ideas to create a mixture to be used as a cleaning solution.     

As a history the 7075 Alloy came into production in 1943, I am not sure when the T6 Tempering was selected as a Hardness.

 With the above in mind, I would question 7075 - T6 as being the ideal Arm Wand?

It does appear periodically as a Alloy Material used for Wand or a MC Body, but this might be for voicing reasons only and not being too closely voiced to the other Alloy Materials seen in use.

As an Arm Wand material selection, it has been an available material throughout the period in time when some the most famous Japanese Audio producers were carrying out extensive R&D.

I am working on the basis, that the Alloy 7075 is a material that was subjected to R&R within the Japanese Companies investigations and is one that did not find a place in the mainstream, as a component to be used for the structure of a Tonearm.

 The Link is to a research carried out not too many years past with 7075 as the material under investigation.

  https://www.lencoheaven.net/forum/index.php?topic=27814.0   

@wizzzard  on this matter of material type, I am not material prejudiced or critical.

I have heard Tonearms with different metals used as Wands from materials being Organic, Metallic and Composite. I myself don't see the Arm Wand as being the detriment of SQ, there is so much more that will impede the Tonearms optimised function. 

My own experiences to date are certainly leaving me with the certainty, that friction is 'a/the' debilitating factor in how a Tonearm is able to function, especially in allowing the Cart' to work to its optimised when interfacing with the Groove Modulation.   

I am for quite some time, familiar with Korg Investigations of materials and have over the past years been in occasional discussion, where Wand Materials, Wand Length and Damping Methods have taken place with individuals who have used their acquired  knowledge and skills from chosen careers to be thoroughly investigative, with the result being they have produced Tonearm Designs.  

None of the above makes me an expert or authority, it just shows I have an interest.

What I was very correct in presuming to occur, is the type of response I have received to the post I have made about the use of 7075 - T6.

As a side, when I was heavily involved in Target Shooting Competition, nearly all ancillaries to assist with accuracy, would not be considered valuable if not a 7075 Material, with this in mind, there is a time in my life I have been an advocate oof this Alloy.    

I was suffering from a illness when I posted, which may have caused my typo. 

The reference should have been to Korf and not Korg.

I am a fan boy of Korg, the Link I posted has an embedded link to Korf.