The two stages of audiophilia

I don't know. But if there is a traipse involved I suspect tubebuffer will know.

We are digital circuits the two of us sorry...

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But the problem is I’m not too sure just who’s doing the embedding or who’s getting embedded.

You are totally right...

who embed who?

My wife or me or the two of us embed each other ?

Like in audio we embed our system ( this is acoustic) which at the end embed us with it ( this is psycho-acoustic)...

After all audiophile listenings experiments and sex and love neither would be and thanks God! neither could be purely "technical" nor purely "objective"....

All of audio is the stage, and we are merely players.

 Well said...

I am in the same boat as Audioguy. Class A + dual concentric.

But here is my analogy as why the search can never truly end.

You just had the best sex in your life. Absolutely amazing.
The next day a different attractive naked form crosses your vision.

Wha’cha gonna do!!

Fun post .... thanks ....

But if i could add to your humoristic analogy a correction:

Sex= technical performance of an audio system
Love= musical audiophile subtle impressions quality

Then if someone look only for sex or new hyped technical without end upgrade something is flawed in his kingdom so to speak...

Because sex with a love one cannot be compared to sex with "one thousand and one" different women whom you dont love... Like the sultan i prefer Scheherazade... 😊


In my audio journey i have settled with the woman and audio system with whom i love the sex and the music the most and i decide to rightfully embed in all their working dimensions the system and the woman with many homemade devices to make the system and the woman sing...

It cost way less than changing  of woman each month and upgrading components  without end....


With the woman and the audio system, one the choice of each one is settled, the KEY were the right embeddings devices "controls" so to speak.....But dont say that to my wife please....
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I look at the two stages different.Stage one is the love of music and you will do any for that love. Buy a system you feel will help nurture that love of music. Spend all your free time loving that music. Always looking for new artists to grow and deepen that love. It is a journey that can be very fulfilling.Stage two is the down fall that too many fall into. Their love of music turns to their love of their system. This sends them it to a tail spin that they can never get out of. Chasing new equipment based on a post from someone who does not own the piece but gives an opinion. Thinking they are hearing things they really can’t hear. Tweaking things just to tweak, buying new because the technology has to be better it’s newer right?
Their only hope is that they come full circle and rediscover the love of music and remember that system love is that high maintenance girlfriend who you can never satisfy and will dump you in a heartbeat!

Great post really! Thanks...

You are spot on right....

I myself suffered for 8 years of this "disease" which is also could be a marvellous journey though....

What take this marvellous journey to his natural and usual end in my case was acoustic science...

Without acoustic treatment and controls all audio system are compared one against the other to be evaluated for themselves...

With acoustic treatment and controls, which are applied individually to some specific gear in specific room; in this instance and circonstances, the distance between what we can qualify "sounds" and what we can qualify "music" or "spoken words" or "singing voices" melted progressively at some level in one singular experience : sound was no more only some signs but something now uniquely meaningful....

For me it was the revelation of the art of listening... Alas! i am not a musician....Nor an acoustician.... Only a lover of music who was dreaming to afford for  himself Hi-FI....

Read about acoustic....

Acoustic controls and treatment are not "tweaks"....

Tweaks are secondary facultative additions to improve a system...

Acoustic treatment and controls are fundamental, not secondary, and exceed in potential positive improvement almost any gear upgrade even the speakers sometimes...

I spoke here only of the most important embeddings controls  the acoustical one.... It will help also using the other 2....

1. Buy the best gear you can afford...

2. Listen and create the necessary acoustic controls for the room to accomodate your speakers ...

There is no step 3 here...

Step 3 exist for obsessed gear people with no knowledge of acoustic....





You dont need the BEST gear in the world and you dont want it at all, because it cost way too much...
You need the optimal price /sound quality ratio for your money...

And guess what? your system could be nearer than anything else very high cost  that you could ever imagine...Thanks to acoustic science....

It is my experience.....

Listening his " gear" qualities is good and necessary in the beginnings,,,,

But most never quit the beginings...They upgrade and go on listening to their gear new qualities in the SAME UNCHANGED room for the sake of comparison for sure.... Not always improvement tough but different each time...

Ad infinitum.....


Now some acoustically treat their room and control it the right way...( learn how to control also the mechanical and electrical embeddings)

After that, if the job is well done they never listen sounds so much than they listen to music....

Audiophilia become mostly a necessary past stage.... I dream myself to upgrade one day but without no more real urgency at all...Too busy with the new music....

Obsession to sounds is transformed in musical obsession...( After 7 years of sound quality obsession and listenings experiments each day almost)

If it is possible for me with an under 500 bucks system it is possible for all at any price....

I only repeat here the OP initial motive with my own experience....



My best to all....





« Acoustic is the sleeping princess, anything else are the working dwarves, now be the prince, kiss the sleeping princess» -Anonymus Me