Two years and more than 2800 posts later, Synergistic Research Blue fuse thread is still here!
How many of those fuses have been sold so far? More or less than 2800?
How many of those fuses have been sold so far? More or less than 2800?
The new Synergistic Research BLUE fuses ....
New SR BLUE fuse thread ...
I’ve replaced all 5 of the SR BLACK fuses in my system with the new SR BLUE fuses. Cold, out of the box, the BLUE fuses stomped the fully broken-in SR BLACKS in a big way. As good as the SR BLACK fuses were/are, especially in comparison with the SR RED fuses, SR has found another break-through in fuses.
1. Musicality ... The system is totally seamless at this point. Its as if there is no system in the room, only a wall to wall, front to back and floor to ceiling music presentation with true to life tonality from the various instruments.
2. Extension ... I’ve seemed to gain about an octave in low bass response. This has the effect of putting more meat on the bones of the instruments. Highs are very extended, breathing new life into my magic percussion recordings. Vibes, chimes, bells, and triangles positioned in the rear of the orchestra all have improved. I’ve experienced no roll-off of the highs what so ever with the new BLUE fuses. Just a more relaxed natural presentation.
3. Dynamics ... This is a huge improvement over the BLACK fuses. Piano and vibes fans ... this is fantastic.
I have a Japanese audiophile CD of Flamenco music ... the foot stomps on the stage, the hand clapping and the castanets are present like never before. Want to hear natural sounding castanets? Get the BLUE fuses.
4. Mid range ... Ha! Put on your favorite Ben Webster album ... and a pair of adult diapers. Play Chris Connor singing "All About Ronnie," its to die for.
Quick .... someone here HAS to buy this double album. Its a bargain at this price. Audiophile sound, excellent performance by the one and only Chris Connor. Yes, its mono ... but so what? Its so good you won’t miss the stereo effects. If you’re the lucky person who scores this album, please post your results here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRASONIC-CLEAN-The-Finest-Of-CHRIS-CONNOR-Bethlehem-Jazz-1975-NM-UNPLAYED-...
Overall impressions:
Where the RED fuses took about 20 hours to sound their best, and the BLACK fuses took upwards of 200 hours of total break-in, the BLUE fuses sounded really good right out of the box ... and that’s without doing anything about proper directional positioning. Not that the BLUE fuses don’t need breaking in, they do. The improvement continues through week three. Its a gradual break-in thing where each listening session is better than the last.
Everything I described above continues to break new ground in my system as the fuses continue breaking in. Quite honestly, I find it difficult to tear myself away from the system in order to get things done. Its truly been transformed into a magical music machine. With the expenditure of $150.00 and a 30 day return policy there’s really nothing to lose. In my system, its like upgrading to a better pre amp, amp, CD player or phono stage. Highly recommended.
Kudos to Ted Denney and the entire staff at SR. Amazing stuff, guys. :-)
Frank
PS: If you try the SR BLUE fuses, please post your results here. Seems the naysayers, the Debbie Downers and Negative Nellie’s have hijacked the original RED fuse thread. A pox on their houses and their Pioneer receivers.
Frank
I’ve replaced all 5 of the SR BLACK fuses in my system with the new SR BLUE fuses. Cold, out of the box, the BLUE fuses stomped the fully broken-in SR BLACKS in a big way. As good as the SR BLACK fuses were/are, especially in comparison with the SR RED fuses, SR has found another break-through in fuses.
1. Musicality ... The system is totally seamless at this point. Its as if there is no system in the room, only a wall to wall, front to back and floor to ceiling music presentation with true to life tonality from the various instruments.
2. Extension ... I’ve seemed to gain about an octave in low bass response. This has the effect of putting more meat on the bones of the instruments. Highs are very extended, breathing new life into my magic percussion recordings. Vibes, chimes, bells, and triangles positioned in the rear of the orchestra all have improved. I’ve experienced no roll-off of the highs what so ever with the new BLUE fuses. Just a more relaxed natural presentation.
3. Dynamics ... This is a huge improvement over the BLACK fuses. Piano and vibes fans ... this is fantastic.
I have a Japanese audiophile CD of Flamenco music ... the foot stomps on the stage, the hand clapping and the castanets are present like never before. Want to hear natural sounding castanets? Get the BLUE fuses.
4. Mid range ... Ha! Put on your favorite Ben Webster album ... and a pair of adult diapers. Play Chris Connor singing "All About Ronnie," its to die for.
Quick .... someone here HAS to buy this double album. Its a bargain at this price. Audiophile sound, excellent performance by the one and only Chris Connor. Yes, its mono ... but so what? Its so good you won’t miss the stereo effects. If you’re the lucky person who scores this album, please post your results here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRASONIC-CLEAN-The-Finest-Of-CHRIS-CONNOR-Bethlehem-Jazz-1975-NM-UNPLAYED-...
Overall impressions:
Where the RED fuses took about 20 hours to sound their best, and the BLACK fuses took upwards of 200 hours of total break-in, the BLUE fuses sounded really good right out of the box ... and that’s without doing anything about proper directional positioning. Not that the BLUE fuses don’t need breaking in, they do. The improvement continues through week three. Its a gradual break-in thing where each listening session is better than the last.
Everything I described above continues to break new ground in my system as the fuses continue breaking in. Quite honestly, I find it difficult to tear myself away from the system in order to get things done. Its truly been transformed into a magical music machine. With the expenditure of $150.00 and a 30 day return policy there’s really nothing to lose. In my system, its like upgrading to a better pre amp, amp, CD player or phono stage. Highly recommended.
Kudos to Ted Denney and the entire staff at SR. Amazing stuff, guys. :-)
Frank
PS: If you try the SR BLUE fuses, please post your results here. Seems the naysayers, the Debbie Downers and Negative Nellie’s have hijacked the original RED fuse thread. A pox on their houses and their Pioneer receivers.
Frank
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oregonpapa, I find it all backwards. I would think that people start making things in the back of their home, rather than have a factory first and then living in it. I am also puzzled that a person who is adept enough to figure out what will sell could not figure out that many grocery stores have microwave ovens close to the exit and anyone is free to use them. There is a Wholefoods 3.4 miles from Synergistic Research's current address. You cannot be good at everything, I guess. |
oregonpapa, I do like seeing people succeed in whatever positive they do. Starting production in a garage in the back of an apartment/house is quite common and makes sense. I was surprised that someone would have a factory, no matter how small or unsophisticated, and then move in. It just seemed odd. Still, the story about cold sandwich, as poetically heartbreaking as it may seem, does not earn any points. The only reason to eat cold sandwich in Santa Ana, California is because one wants to eat cold sandwich. Of course, if it had been the only sandwich that week, it would have shown dedication and sacrifice to achieve some goal by saving. I have not been to Synergistic Research current factory. It would be a wasted visit. I would not know the difference from any other production place. I suspect that machines to make fuses would look exactly like machines to bottle Coca-Cola to me. That is my fault, not Synergistic Research’s. Back to actual Blue fuse numbers. If $80 per fuse is a ballpark figure of the dealer’s cost, it would be around 1300 fuses that first weekend. Not all of them could be expected to be sold to final customers that weekend so some stayed in stock. As fuses are quite specific items and market/customers are very specialized and dedicated, it could be expected that a majority of potentially interested buyers would buy them soon after launch. That peak would then be followed by much slower, but steady, demand over time. If initial demand was 1300, could it be that over the following two years it added about 1200, or was it much more. I am really impressed that this thread is two years old with 2850+ posts, confirming very strong emotions that fuses bring (pro et contra). I am curious if the number of posts surpassed the number of fuses. I will never know, but I do wonder if each produced fuse has its own post on this thread. |
"...20 years of the same schtick on wire directionality, cryogenics and selling springs doesn’t impress any of us."I disagree. 20 years of persisting on anything is an achievement worth appreciating. 20 years of persisting on nothing is even more commendable. geoffkait has reached Zen state of bunkery. |
geoffkait, I apologize for not reading your posts carefully. I carefully read one every month to know what the flavor of the month will be as, afterwards, they are all the same. So reading georgehifi’s post above, I noticed an error in your previous post. Your adding "little wiener" to my description is just a little bit off the target. By about....well, the fuse on my calculator just blew. |
I just got a notice that my post in which I crunched some numbers to get a ballpark figure how many fuses might have been sold, etc. was removed because of...
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oregonpapa, "Jetter asked this question and I answered it:"I got as far as finding this from jetter: "I hope Frank answers littlecx’s question, "So SR just buying the cheap fuses outside and process them or they manufacture their own fuses?""and this from you, albeit addressed to twodolphins: "There's a lot more that goes into the process than just using an ordinary cheap fuse."There are a few posts removed along the way so it may be that your answer to jetter was among them. I am not confused anymore. Now I know we do not have an answer. By the way, is no Synergistic Fuse blowing yet good news, or is it bad news? The only time you are sure that fuse works is when it blows. Is there a way to check reliability? In case Synergistic research is buying someone else's fuses and then modifying them, how sure can a buyer be that this doctored fuse will still operate as it used to? In case they are not buying someone else's fuses, why do not they have machines for production? I am on no side in this fuse battle buy it does raise questions. |
"There is no prohibition against using a stock fuse to build an aftermarket fuse."How come that manufacturers, those who make "stock" fuses, do not try to take a slice of this "fancy fuse" market? They probably know their fuses are used for it, they have credibility (they actually know how to make, not just "treat"), and they have machinery. They could design them from scratch and instead of "made for us" market it as "in-house research, design, and production". Profit margin seems to be higher. Why are they not doing it? Should we let them know? We may end up with much better fuses in the end. |
That seems reasonable, provided that manufacturers are actually decent enough to pass this money-making opportunity that is laid in front of them for the taking. What reassurances do buyers have that a fuse that has been tinkered with will maintain its original function to specifications? Regardless of the sound. |
Oh, geez, the Red Queen has returned from her self imposed exile.You logged into the wrong thread. Please, check your thread and try your post again. I believe, this is the one you attempted to participate in... https://beemaster.com/forum/index.php |
I am thinking that maybe they see it as a very small number despite obviously much bigger profit margins. To sell such fuses advertising may need to be really persuasive and time and money consuming. Maybe they are not willing to get into that trouble. I have no clue but am just trying to think of what it could be. |
"Real Graphene is one molecule thick and therefore invisible!"Not so fast, Candie. Just because it is one molecule thick should not mean it is invisible to everybody. Many will not see it, but some will. Reasons for this differnce is debatable, of course. Think of it as wire directionality. It is there, but nobody can hear it despite some theories floated around. Those who can hear it may hear it just because they know it exists. Just like those who see graphene. Human hearing and eyesight may not be sensitive enough, but power of imagination is mighty and it fills holes that make reality unpleasant. Enjoy the beautiful appearance of graphene together with improvements associated with wire directionality. We will not tell anyone. |
geoffkait, I apologize. I thought I would be a good and polite boy and read a few of your posts thoroughly. It saddens me that you cannot comprehend my replies. How about you taking a vacation in Minnesota? Winter is coming and freezing there would make you amazingly, unambigouosly, obviously and beyond a doubt insanely better. |
Let’s agree for the moment that fuses of whatever kind do make a difference. Great. Bingo. However, reading the post above..., "...Synergistic fuses that went in and were amazingly, unambigouosly, obviously and beyond a doubt insanely better."makes it less believable. I doubt than anybody here has a fully crappy system that cannot play even close to decent. I suspect that millercarbon has a truly nice set-up many would envy. I really do. Now, to make it so much better, the way it is described, just by changing a fuse would make me think that system was not that good to begin with. Which is what I highly doubt. Ok, maybe fuse made some difference, but if it makes it all insanely better, something is wrong with the rest of the equipment. And what are the chances of that slipping unnoticed? |