The Cliff Notes printed book version of this thread will be coming out soon for those maybe already wasting too much time thinking about fuses Thanks for the chuckles, and for the Cliff Notes reference..... Actually I think Fox are considering a mini series..... I hope they can be fair and balanced.... |
You the worst of the "Awesome Foursome" and are technically inept. All you have is "snake oil" as that's all you can present.
At least I can follow a conversation to stay on topic. By the way, if "Awesome Foursome" is an analogy to the Musketeers, does that make you Cardinal Wishiknew? All the best, Nonoise |
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! |
He thinks if he causes enough stink here with his belligerent antisocial behaviour and rants the mods will shut down the thread again and he will have succeeded in his mission.
Spot on observation @uberwaltz. Earlier on, in this thread, he boasted of shutting down two threads on fuses and seems really pissed off that this one (of the two) was reopened. All the best, Nonoise |
@crazyeddy,
No need to walk on eggshells when evaluating the fuses, or go to great lengths to insure you end up doubting yourself. Trust your ears and let us know what you hear.
All the best, Nonoise |
This will be my last post on fuses and Graphene/TC or what our supposed US compatriots call them. We go to war together and watch each others backs. I write a reasonable question on AudioGon and get stabbed in the back, insulted without apology by a nasty few (I we know who they are) for asking "where's the proof". At least I apologise if I am out of the respectable line. You few have no respect at all. Good luck to you.
It would be nice for you to have some perspective. You come in, very late in the discussion, thinking what you've said is news to the rest of us. Do yourself a big favor and read all the posts on fuses and you'll see that what you offer has been talked to death already. It's like your George's twin, separated at birth. Just because you say it, doesn’t mean people should do it Need I say that it goes both ways? All the best, Nonoise
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@crazyeddy,
I trust you'll be pleasantly surprised. Do let us know how it works out. 👍 |
Good ol' George relies on "electronic reasoning" (whatever the hell that means) and "scientific knowledge". Maybe he needs a remedial reminder on just how we get to what is considered science: Empirical evidence is information acquired by observation or experimentation. Scientists record and analyze this data. The process is a central part of the scientific method. Note: "either or" in that statement. One must first empirically observe something with (in this case) their own ears. if validation is necessary or demanded by someone else, then by all means, go and do the research yourself. Empirical evidence is good enough to arrive at a conclusion. The "electronic reasoning" can be left to the die hards to figure out. If they don't care to figure it out, it could be that they're afraid of something. All the best, Nonoise |
Yes and no. The validation portion of the quoted statement cannot be done by anyone other than yourself. And you haven't been honest with yourself if you haven't tried your ears at a blind test. So the observation portion of your statement utilizes many more senses than just hearing; like sight and touch.
Nope. No validation is required if I am satisfied with the results. Besides, as you keep forgetting, three different fuses performed the same way under the same conditions. You speak of the necessity of testing myself which is hogwash. You keep on harping about this parlor trick of blind testing as if it's something carved in stone that has to be obeyed. Again, hogwash. You are no authority on the matter so stop speaking as if you are one. Your strictures have no bearing on me whatsoever so keep them to yourself. Let them be your guiding principles as you navigate life. I don't need them. All the best, Nonoise |
So to reiterate, it is my belief that by your adamant refusal to do a blind test, you’re simply being dishonest with yourself. That’s all.
I am calm. It's just that you're a broken record. Most times you can come across as nice and accommodating but when you do your act: state > rinse > repeat, state > rinse > repeat, it's beginning to look like your sincerity is nothing more than trolling. All the best, Nonoise |
I thought you said you were going away....... |
Since when do you establish the rules, George? You make this up as you go along. First you claim it has to be "scientific" and then it's pointed out to you that something empirically observed is scientific. Any disproving is up to the naysayer, which you refuse to do.
Now you say SR has to join your fracas of a forum or it's not legit. When you run out of conditions and the fuses always sound better, what will you do?
All the best, Nonoise |
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Did you hit your head with the surfboard?
You found a person who doesn't believe in them. STOP THE PRESSES!
And, you found out that SR steers people to what they think is a sane discussion on their fuses. Boy, are they in for a big surprise.
All the best, Nonoise |
Their backers comments speak for themselves, like with all products that people are happy with. What need does SR have that they must rely and promote what others say? This is really quite a stretch, even for you.
I would say you can do better, but you seem to be running out of negative options to toss around.
All the best, Nonoise |
@amg56,
Sorry to hear about your diagnosis and best of luck on your surgery. I can see how it would make anyone out of sorts. This fuse matter should be the least challenging matter to deal with for the time being. Keep up the positive thinking.
All the best, Nonoise |
po·et·ic li·censenoun- the freedom to depart from the facts of a matter or from the conventional rules of language when speaking or writing in order to create an effect."he used a little poetic license to embroider a good tale"
How is discussing the dangers of substituting a fast blow fuse for a slow blow fuse poetic license, unless you're insinuating there's danger to be had when sticking with the correct fuse rating but using a better fuse? Is that the license (effect) you're taking? All the best, Nonoise |
I’ll put it up again, maybe the tree lopers have been in.
It’s a very dangerous practise substituting a fast blow fuse for a slow blow, could even be lethal, when the original manufacturers one was a fast blow. As there are many specs to calculate to which one/type is used.
As there are all the currents which dictates fast or slow blow.
Switch-on surge current Idle current. How much bias current is applied And how many watts into what loads.
Cheers George I couldn't find anything in the above to indicate your implications on post removals and indiscriminate treatment. 🤔 It seemed to be solely on using the wrong type fuses. All the best, Nonoise |
I hope they understand you better than we, here, do. 🤔
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Who implicated post removals, wow, you’ve have got a bad case of the Heebie-jeebies.
You did: You certainly do have a point. That said, I suspect you know very well that if what I’m suggesting were the case (i.e. that some reasonable degree of poetic license were allowed), many of my prior posts would not have been removed.
True? 🤔
fast fuse forum moderation translation: delete post seemingly indiscriminately and immediately
slow blow fuse forum moderation translation: think about it, consider other forum member response(s), then act accordingly
George, you have to remember what you say and not make it up as you go along.👍 We can't read between the lines when what's between the lines are in your head. All the best, Nonoise |
Please re-read the last few posts. The post you are quoting in response to georgehifi was made by me.
We all make mistakes..... 😒 Quite right. I stand corrected, conflating yours and George’s posts. 🤪 I shouldn't watch TV and do this at the same time. All the best, Nonoise |
Ah, let him have his moment in the sun.....☀️ |
Not a bad analogy. Al is an ambassador of sorts, and does his level best to keep things calm. |
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The only point of contention with your statement is the refusal of those who say a fuse can not affect performance based on a belief, rather than an experience.
That, is a great example of expectation bias: I will not hear an improvement so why bother trying? As opposed to "lets see what happens here when I change this...", which is more of a scientific approach.
Just like with cables, I went through 3 different brands of fuses before I came upon one that sounded best in my system and to my tastes.
All the best, Nonoise
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This is like someone coming upon the scene of an accident, moments after it happened. They look around, size up the scene and come to a conclusion that discounts what the persons in the accident reported. The victims even have a dash cam video of what happened but the late comer refuses to look at it, citing his unfailing ability to backward engineer the event because, a higher level of abstraction.
All the best, Nonoise |
To my knowledge, only wolf didn't hear an improvement after trying a SR fuse, and he seriously/humorously questions the sanity/honesty/integrity of those who do.
All the best, Nonoise |
Goodnight Gertrude, Goodnight Heathcliff. |
Nonoise if you want to have a chance of being regarded a credible source you might want to reconsider hiding behind yapdogkait’s obfuscations. No, he's dead right on that one. All the best, Nonoise |
It’s refreshing to wake up after a good night’s sleep and see the same flies in the ointment. What Ted Denny said: NO OBJECTIVE CRITERIA OR TEST THAT EXISTS TODAY THAT CONCLUSIVELY PROVES ANY PRODUCT TO BE BETTER THAN ANY OTHER. is not a repudiation of his product and even the ones with half a brain here know that, yet they immediately jump on it as such. It’s like after having your head buried in the sand for so long, they stand up, bend over backwards, and reinsert their heads in the sand, proclaiming, "I now have a new point to argue with." Geoff has been saying, in a different way, that there’s no way to validate a A/B/X test as there’s too many variables inherent in the test (which is another way to state Ted Denny's statement) and like I’ve always said, it’s a parlor trick. And something has to be said about false equivalency. One side is trolling as best they can while the other can only point to the obvious remedy: try the fuse for yourself. It appeares to be just a tactic to get the thread shut down. And one more thing: there’s nothing in the book that states that a fuse can not effect the sound of one’s system. There’s nothing in "electronic engineering" (as one here loves to say) that says the same. There are no "engineering laws" that say that either. It’s merely the understanding of those with an appreciation and understanding of those rules and laws who surmise, for themselves, that it can not be. They’re just guessing. No body has ever bothered to consider it before someone discovered that a fuse can be of benefit. There’s no way in hell that something which is a part of design can not impart a sonic signature of it’s own, since the design can not work without it’s presence. It’s function is small but that doesn’t mean it’s sonic impact isn’t. Just because no one thought enough to give due consideration to something for a long time doesn’t mean that it’s some kind of electronic engineering law. All the best, Nonoise |
The only thing anyone can count on is the desire here to get others to buy the fuses. Silly on it’s face. If your take on what I said was that listening is unreliable, then you’re just having a great time trolling. Try adding some emojis at the end of such a statement, to give it relevance. 🤪 All the best, Nonoise |
Argumentum ad populum Is that the same as stercus quod est onus Domini? |
They're wrong, They know they're wrong, and yet they still persist. All of their protests are nothing more than an end around the original intent of the OP. They're dancing madly on the head of a pin, only meaning to distract, to get in some blows. Poor snowflakes.
All the best, Nonoise |
George, do us all a favor will ya?
Get busy and link all the pages you can find. That way, we can discount it all at once. What you're doing is a form of confirmation bias. Be sure to discount any links that run counter to your beliefs: it will make you feel better.
All the best. Nonoise |
Women’s hearing is better than men’s due to evolution. Their hearing has to be outstanding so they could hear when their husbands were driving up the driveway. I believe there's some truth to that. It's the female of the species that protects the home(land) and raises the young. They also do most of the hunting, until we humans started walking upright. Males are for territorial defense and breeding (bragging) rights. I think women have the edge. They just aren't given the chance to prove or use it as much as men do. All the best, Nonoise |
So now Paul McGowen is part of the conspiracy. Where will this all end? Just keep moving the goalposts and one will have an argument to make. |
@parbellum, The first fuse I ever tried was the HiFi Tuning Silver Stars. Experimenting with a different fuse made it plain to me that the Silver Stars had lots of leading edge, detail, and attack, but at the expense of body, tone and fullness.
If your Audio Link fuses are like that, then that would explain what you're hearing. Every fuse sounds different, even those of different tiers from the same make.
It's funny, and reassuring, that you found yourself having to turn the volume down a bit as I had to as well. When I reported that minor finding, boy did I get a lot of blowback, but now it's pretty much a common thing.
I haven't tried the SR fuses yet either, but if you do what I did and try other brands, the total will add up to the cost of a Blue Fuse, or thereabouts.
All I can say is to experiment with fuses like you would with cables until you arrive at what sounds best to your ears in your system. Happy hunting. 🔍
All the best, Nonoise
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Not as a knock against Floridians, especially those here on this forum, but I know someone from Florida who calls it Flori..duh.
Here's hoping that you can find a competent technician to fix it.
All the best, Nonoise |
Just remember that it's the shawarma that has the mutton and the rest is easy.
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Methinks he's wrapped too tight. |