3 of the "Awesome Foursome" are at it again, time to bring out the sanity pitch, rather than the "snake oil’ one. The only reason to change a $2 internal mains fuse, is to just replace it with correct manufacture specified amperage, slow or fast blow, new $2 one. Not a $150 one!!!!
And this should only be done by a qualified technician, not by the owner, as it is a very dangerous area unless you are qualified.
Mapman inadvertently is agreeing with what really happens to a partially melted fuse, it’s called ageing. Good for you.
Funny this should be mentioned as it’s just like what happens to a fuse that’s seen too many turn on cycles, as there’s far more current goes through it at the moment of switch on than any other time, as it has to charge up empty power supply caps ect. that’s why fuses and light globes blow (if nothings wrong) at time of turn on, here are some pics of fuse ageing.
A slow-blo fuse "ageing" right to left
https://peakpinball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/fuse-8312-640x426.jpg
A fast-blo fuse "ageing" left to right
https://i.stack.imgur.com/0uqWX.jpg%20 Cheers George |
shadorne
The same designer makes several color fuses at different price points.
geoffkait
>>>Actually the designer makes no such tiered range of products as you claim.
Really!!!!!!! Red , Black, then Blue all at different price points. AND!!!! each one said by the "Awesome Foursome" to transform your system to another level, even more so than the one before. ALSO!!!!!! they are all directional in an AC (alternating current) environment that changes 60 x a second.. And then none of this "snake oil" is back up in any way with the same wording by SR here publicly. Cheers George |
Maybe not tiered but certainly an "upgrade" from each consecutive one once it lost it's BS "snake oil" appeal, at ever increased pricing. And I’m not starting to loose it, unlike you already have. You’ve really got to get rid of that website of yours as it’s a dead give away. https://www.machinadynamica.com/machina60.htmCheers George |
the know-it-alls here are like the drunk who enters the freeway via the exit ramp and then curses all the idiots going the wrong way.
Or a bit like the idiot who tries an ac mains fuse in different directions expecting to hear a difference, when he knows AC is alternating current that swaps itself 60 x a second. Cheers George |
There is nothing wrong with the term "snake oil" when used with regards to most of the unbelievable effects of >$150 fuses claimed here, as the whole technical side of the industry uses that same term with regards to fuses and what's said here, save for the couple of them that are making money out of it.
Cheers George
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Like I said allnoise, that wasn't even all the first page of over 10.
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wolf_garcia
Meeting at SR: "Hey, the fuses seem to take too long to "break in" and they're not expensive enough. What do we do? Wait...tell people we've made 'em so they "break in" faster
Call oregonpapa and get his check in the mail!"
BEAUTIFUL Wolf!!!!!!!!!!
uberwaltz
C,mon Wolf
You know the next ones are going to be Purple, will take 180 days to fully break in and cost $240 each and contain snail entrails.
Now here's a man with inside knowledge, quick get shares in SR before the word gets out, remember those Apple shares. Cheers george |
oregonpapa
It is very interesting that the Orange fuse thread was closed down for the second time. There was nothing offensive, nor were there any personal attacks in the second thread. Just guys discussing audio. Go figure. Shilling from what I and many others saw, and the same could happen here if you sub it for this one. You just don’t know when to stop. |
Well not hard to produce evidence these days if that is the case. Take some pictures of the SR fuse, put them on Google or some other site with pic sharing functionality, and post the link here, maybe using a blown SR fuse if available so as not to disturb a new ready to rumble one.
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Maybe the free advertising coupon expired.
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Hopefully the days of the SR snake oil salesmen are about to expire https://ibb.co/5vhWDbCCheers George |
The description says it is custom made for them and then they treat it. It may look like the stock $3 fuse but is it?
Serious!!!! your not going to gain any cred with that one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHl7Dsln19Q |
Anyone that's remotely considering spending $150 on a $1 fuse, save your money and do this instead. Change your old crusty fuses that may have seen too many turn on cycles (pics attached), then do it with the same $1 fuse, not the BS $150 SR boutique ones, as they will sound the same and age just as fast. Pics of fast and slow blo fuses that have seen too many turn on cycles over a couple of years. https://ibb.co/PzWvzwr (left to right over time aging) https://ibb.co/17Tvy6t (right to left over time aging) Cheers George
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Poor little glubson. Still trying to be somebody by stalking the big guy. Poor little glubby. Poor little wiener dog 😢 Its gratifying to know I can still get under some people’s skin. I’ve still got it, Baby! 🤗
You've got sweet **** *** geoff just like like your voodoo website,
http://www.machinadynamica.com/
I wish admin would just ban you and your shilling mate from oregon. You both bring audio and this website down to a level of disbelief with both your snake oil voodoo BS on fuses |
jafreeman
You might reason a better fuse is like a better cable. Ho! how very wrong and just more "snake oil", speaker/interconnect cable has inductance, resistance and capacitance, all of which "can" have an influence on sound, a fuse has none of these, save for a tiny fraction of micro-ohm resistance, which would absolutely do nothing. @prof , kudos to you for your civility and eloquence. Your responses are well thought out and respectful. Give him time, he’s a newbie, I've seen the cracks in a couple if posts, it's just a matter of time here. Cheers George |
Just throw the whole thing out. Especially if gk goes with it. He can't even get the story about me right. Pull the plug!
Yes this thread is just a seething cesspit of "snake oil" BS, just to make money from the technically gullible. I agree just pull the plug on it it's just a weed. Trouble is you can guarantee a new weed thread will will start "The new Synergistic Research Green" fuses or something like it, you can take that to the bank, as the stupid high profit margins will not let this baby die ever it's malignant. Cheers George |
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What gets me is these totally non technical "fusers" think they know more about what make an amp or dac work better or worse than the electronic engineers that designed and built the equipment they are using. And that these $150 fuses have some magical power that can't be measured.
It's like them saying to the gullible potential fuse purchasers here, that they know better than the likes of Nelson Pass ect ect who designed the equipment.
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uberwaltz
Conversely I have zero respect for those who firmly grasp an abacus in one hand and slide rule in the other and state its just impossible for a fuse to make any sonic difference.
Was it not that type of thinking that said man would never fly?
Good night all. Really?? "I have zero respect for those who firmly grasp an abacus in one hand and slide rule in the other" I think the Wright Brothers would have zero respect for you and your fuse. http://silodrome.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/1903-Wright-Flyer-Blueprints-Free-Download1-740x573....Cheers George |
gdhal
I didn’t want to go there, on account of my posts in this thread are deleted for really no good/legitimate reason.
Same was happened to me on a couple, get in touch with admin as I did and ask why. They got back to me and restored
mine and said one of the mods was a little trigger happy, and their looking into it. Maybe he was a "fuser" I said back. Cheers George |
Once again the "reporters" have been busy.
But the fact is that mains fuses have no difference in any character of sound when they are in a AC mains path as that mains changes it's direction 60 x a second. So any ***** can see, that direction changing of a fuse is wishful thinking, and after spending $150 on a $2 fuse, as Ralph (Atmasphere) has so aptly name it, it's "Expectation Bias"
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And you have never given one iota of explanation technical or mystical, to what you believe is the reason for you to say these fuses do magical things for an audio system when installed, and also the direction they are installed.
You just say trust me because I said so.
Odd that Synergistic Research won't back any of you "fusers" here either.
Like I've said before usually when a product is vigorously discussed as it is here, a manufacture will nearly always try to set the record straight by posting what he thinks, but it seems not this thread as there are legal implications to be considered.
Cheers George
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fleschler195 posts04-13-2018 5:16amThe differences my friends and I have heard in the directionality of SR fuses is tantamount to the differences heard in equipment with polarized A/C plugs (namely older CD players). Directionality of insertion is quite obvious. I have not done a scientific survey of why that exists, only that it is audibly significant (VERY). Then your not letting the EE technical side function very well, think about it?? If you reverse the two pin figure 8 mains plug on those early CD players what are you doing?? One way your sending active to the primary winding of the transformer that may start on the outside and then neutral (which is in Australia is at earth potential) goes goes to the inner part of the transformer. Then if you reversed that CD’s figure 8 mains plug the opposite happens. Of course there is some difference in the field generated around the transformer! THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN WITH A FUSE DIRECTION CHANGE!!!! And it pure "snake oil" to say it does. Cheers George |
"Snake Oil" that’s all fuse direction change is. You "awesome foursome" believe the "snake oil" about fuses and also I see the other "snake oil" product, Synergistic Research HFT's
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I installed an SR Blue fuse in my "new" Grover DVD player a little over a week ago now ... the difference is remarkable. Of course I pasted the end caps with TC before installing the fuse. Talk about bass response! In spades. " the difference is remarkable. Talk about bass response! In spades." To the non technical gullible, a fuse cannot do this. THIS IS PURE BS!!!! This is pure "snake oil" an AC mains fuse cannot EVER do this in a CD player, there are transformer/s after the mains fuse, then bridge rectifier/s, then every power supply section after the bridge rectifier’s is super regulated by different + and - regulators for each section, so it is IMPOSSIBLE for a mains fuse to do this BS. EG: It’s like saying someone dropped an drop of water in the Pacific Ocean off California and we could still see the ripples at Bondi Beach it caused here in Australia, that just how stupid, stupid, stupid all this "snake oil" fuse BS is. As I said before get Synergistic Research to back up your statements here on Audiogon with posts of their own. As every manufacture I've seen on Audiogon has something to say if their product is mentioned and discussed in a thread. Cheers George |
stock fuses are not superior--they are a minimum that can be improved upon. You said that, don’t make out it’s fact. Are you also in the camp that claims that IC’s, PC’s and speaker cables can’t make an improvement? Just curious ... There have measurable capacitance, resistance and inductance’s with these that can effect the sound A FUSE DOES NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You "Awesome Foursome" really are "Technical Neanderthal’s" Once again with your CD player BS statements: " the difference is remarkable. Talk about bass response! In spades." You are full of it, and every time I see this sort of BS posted about fuses I will react to it. An AC mains fuse cannot EVER do this in a CD player, there are transformer/s after the mains fuse, then bridge rectifier/s, then every power supply section after the bridge rectifier’s is super regulated by different + and - regulators for each section, so it is IMPOSSIBLE for a mains fuse to do this BS. EG: It’s like saying someone dropped an drop of water in the Pacific Ocean off California and we could still see the ripples at Bondi Beach it caused here in Australia, that just how stupid, all this "snake oil" fuse BS is. It’s just a massive money grab! Cheers George |
George ... you owe Tim Mrock an apology. Are you man enough to step up to the plate?? No, $300 for a little bit of contact cleaner and some cheap gloves, may as well try to get me to pay $100 for a 50c fuse. Just get a $10 spray can of well researched can of contact cleaner instead, for basically the same results. And it will last much longer. Made by a major company that's been around for decades Electrolube. https://www.electrolube.com/products/contact-lubricants/eml/contact_cleaner_lubricants/ Cheers George |
In spite of your shallow threats
No threats, fact. Both your threads were shut down. Keep up the dangerous practices that could harm someone in the end and the shilling, and this one may go the way of the dodo too with a bit of luck.
from where do you derive the authority to become Mister Full-Charge of the Audiogon site?
I don't, but admin are obviously very aware of sorting out the wheat from the chaff, because in the long run it's not good for their image or maybe some liability letting you coerce the non technical into something as dangerous as playing around with mains fuses, in out in out A/B'ing them forgetting to unplug from the mains just once and then bye bye. |
Seriously
fleschler are you taking the p**s or are you for real, your very good and I doffs me hat to ya if taking the p**s.
But a seriously bent individual and in desperate need of help if your saying this c**p is for real.
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MODS/ADMIN !!!!!!
FOR GOODNESS SAKE SHUT THIS TOXIC THREAD DOWN
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