charles1dad
Yes, but if one decides to keep a particular product they have determined that the price is acceptable given the level of performance it rendered. So no need to return a product as they are satisfied on a cost/performance ratio.
If it fails their perceived value or return on cost quotient, well no problem and they return the "underperforming " product. No money loss.
What? Whoa! That’s what I just got through saying, charlesdad. Hel-loo! That’s why almost everyone offers a money back guarantee. What’s up with all the damage control, guys? You guys are winning. |
danvignau
GMAFB! Do you also use a green Magic Marker on the fuse blade edges?
Huh? Fuses have blades? Besides purple is the correct color for fuse caps, not green. 😈 Which begs the question, of folks complain so much about the high price of aftermarket fuses how come nobody ever tries to make his own super fuses? We already know the basics of what’s involved. How hard could it be? A real DIYer could figure out how to inject beeswax into a fuse. His hard could it be? 🐝 |
Ack-chew-ally the audio signal DOES go through fuses. You know, like fuses in speakers and fuses in electronics that are in the signal path. Plus the poster totally forgot to inform us that fuses cannot be directional in AC circuits. Whoops!
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Eggs ackly! Graphene is not too difficult to make, everybody and his brother is making the stuff. And anti vibration and counter RF measures are a snap. And the violet pen trick for the end caps anyone can do. I’d protect the little bugger from magnetic fields, too. Better safe than sorry. I’d replace the stupid fuse holder with a silver one from Acme and send em both off to the cryo lab. I’d probably start off with one of those purdy gold and silver fuses from HiFi Tuning, you betcha!
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They all do except for the brand new improved Audio Magic Beeswax fuse that’s made to order. All audiophile fuses, with the exception noted, have *always* had a money back guarantee. Hel-loo! If memory serves at least one manufacturer has a 60 day guarantee. Whee! I’m assuming David P. didn’t get my memos.
pop quiz: How many high end fuse manufacturers are there?
multiple choice
a. 4
b. 7
c. 9
d. More than 9
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And the answer is....
15! 😳
Brimar
Telos
HiFi Tuning
Audio Magic
Furutech
Isoclean
Synergistic Research
Audio Horizons
Acme Audio
AMR (Abbington Music Research)
Silver plated Bussman fuse from U.K.
PADIS
Create Audio (China)
Schurter (gold plated, ceramic body)
Super Cryo Fuse (Japan)
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Whoa! What?! Far infrared? Is he crazy?! 😛 Naturally I just ordered a ceramic far infrared bulb. For medical purposes only. 😬 |
Actually, it appears the far infrared thing might be conflated with the “standard work”they do for Brimar fuses after all. The Brimar fuses are not only gold but 72 hrs deep cryo’d ❄️ ❄️ and 48 hours “quantum heat treated.” Which, you have to admit, sounds a lot like uh, infrared heat treatment. 🔥
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Just so there’s no confusion “quantum heating” can be construed to mean infrared heat lamps, like the one I ordered today. I have near infrared treatments, light treatments, cryogenics and quantum mechanical dodads in my company’s portfolio. Of course quantum heating could be just slow heating in an oven, which has been discussed on another audio forum.
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I guess we’ll never know. 😳 |
If I recall correctly Smith electronics weren’t that great, either. I was the proud owner of an Austin Healey 3000 and Triumph 7. Along with Alfas, British sports are are the most fun cars to have in the shop. I took one of my Alfas in for a rough estimate and they beat the crap out of me.
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Another charming characteristic of the Austin Healey 3000 was the brake clutch master cylinders were essentially in the same cylinder. Thus, as what happened to me whilst motorizing down the road at 60 mph, when the master cylinder fails you lose both clutch and brakes simulateously. 😳
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Innocent question: How do you know a fuse blows unnecessarily? A fuse blows, any fuse, because the energy, the current, for whatever reason, exceeded the fuse’s capability. It did it’s job. I suspect it would take a lot of effort to get to the bottom of the so called fuse blowing. If memory serves all fuses, stock and aftermarket fuses, have been documented over the years on various fora as having what appears to be “premature failure.” So I tend to doubt it is an SR issue per se. Especially in light of the fact all these horror stories of fuses blowing are quite anecdotal. Going up in rating does carry some risk, you know, since damage to electrical components can occur.
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Hey, that’s how it goes sometimes. 😛 |
Just for clarification you did not pay for the SECRET TWEAK, right? This was a quid pro quo one assumes.
Merry Xmas everyone!
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oregonpapa OP
^^^ In the case of the "Total Contact," you definitely get what you pay for .... and then some.
One assumes you’re using the word “you” editorially. 😬
Merry Xmas everybody! ⛄️ |
One stop fuse shopping? You decide. This is the latest list of fuses sold by The Cable Company. Alas, this list does not (rpt not) include many of the fuses I posted the other day such as Brimar and Create. But it does include the Telos and new super Beeswax. https://www.thecableco.com/accessories/fuses.html |
Don’t feed the...oh, forget it! |
Fair enough. I’ll meet you under the bridge.
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Nurse! Man down! Thorazine! And hurry!!
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No, I did not read George’s post. They are all pretty much the same, aren’t they? He was baiting you. And you took the bait. Perhaps one shouldn’t take trolls’ comments too seriously. |
Frank, don’t be such a drama queen. This is not supposed to be a game of whack a mole. Trying to defend/promote controversial tweaks is a lot like trying to extract oneself out of quicksand.
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My motto is whatever techs say do the opposite. You’ll be much better off in the end. There is nothing terribly wrong with living in the 80s but you miss out on a lot that way.
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So I was right! It is like a flux capacitor. 😬
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For any audiophiles like me, who’s always changing something, breaking in new electronics, new power cords, cables, adding or trying new tweaks, it is quite impossible to keep track of what cause is producing what effect. I’m not not even talking about other external variables that affect sound like weather conditions, time of day, day of week, variability of quality and quantity of house power, and things that are not generally known to affect the sound. You know what I’m talking about, unmentionable things, things the mere mention of which causes instant post deletions. 😛
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Damage Control! Damage Control! |
I think it’s great the way people take Wolf seriously or give him the benefit of the doubt. 😛
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Did somebody say beef?! Hmmmm...🍔
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Innocent question: if the word quantum rankles most wide eyed audiophiles 😳 how come manufacturers continue to use the word? I hate to judge too quickly but wouldn’t that be bad for business? Step right up, kiddies, get your quantum Snake Oil right here! 🤑 You know, like advertising cryogenic treatment for product or that cables are controlled for directionality. Or mentioning any kind of relationship with PWB Electronics. 😬 Anyone who doesn’t see what I mean raise your hand. 🖐 I know what Skeptics are probably thinking: well, they wouldn’t risk using the word Quantum if it wasn’t true since it hurts business. That would be stupid. So it must be true. 🤠 The old reverse psychology ploy. Bingo! Naive and gullible newbies fall for it every time. |
tel555
Geoff, I've lost track, please excuse me. Have you actually heard a system before and after Blue fuse treatment?
No, I haven’t. Have you?
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ofthewal
If the geoffkait says that it cant be done, should not interrupt people doing it!Oh, my!
Ooops! Another communication breakdown. That’s two already today and I haven’t even had lunch yet. 🍔 🍟 🍺
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And the funniest question of the day goes to....
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Obviously George considers himself kind of an instigator. 🤡
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“They just don’t.” Well, you’ve certainly convinced me. 🙄 |
I’ve heard of people like that before. 😛
A definition of an expert. Someone who who used to be a squirt under pressure. Another definition of expert. Someone fifty mikes from home in a cheap suit and carrying a suitcase. 😃 |
Gosh, one can’t help wondering what kind of reception fuse directionality gets over on the illustrious Blowtorch thread. Assuming it even comes up. 🤡 Uh, what’s it up to, 3 Million posts?
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Georgehifi
Every piece of hifi gear all of you own is designed using science, EE laws and measurements, then it’s listen to and any adjustments made are done again using science, EE laws and measurements!!!!
None are done using voodoo!!!!
>>>>>>But tweaks aren’t voodo, they use science. That’s why they work. Duh? If they didn’t work then you might make that argument. And, you can’t prove they don’t work. See? That’s the beauty of it. It’s just a lot of cheap talk.
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Wolfman wrote,
“George is only wrong in the sense that there are a lot of "magical" tweaks that people pay for and use that are designed with zero science…just ask the question, "How and why do Special fuses supposedly make things sound so great?" No answer has ever been coughed up by anybody. You just have to believe...”
>>>>Isn’t that special? The man with severe memory disorder, who knows, perhaps an injury, checks in to ask the same fake question again, for the umpty umpth time, hoping to squeeze just a little some more juice out of that used up lemon. 🍋 I place the blame squarely on the education system. Or on whatever person smashed Wolf in the head.
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Of course, and I hate to be the one to bring this up, you could try using your ears. Hel-loo! 🤡 Who is it you’re hoping to convince? Wolfie? Georgie? gdhal?
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Give me a break. Every real engineer knows extactly why these fancy fuses work. It’s the pretend engineers who don’t me the English majors. It’s not rocket science, people. Hel-loo! 🚀
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wolf_garcia
Fake question? I expect a more reasoned response even from pseudo experts like Kaitty…head injury indeed. What I don’t expect at this point after repeatedly asking about it is one of the manufacturers of "special" fuses mentioning anywhere what they were after even at the early stages of design…before implementing whatever they were planning to do with a half inch of tiny wire, they must have been thinking about how and why this might help the resolution of a system…although marketing (A fuse for 150 bucks! 30 day return policy…YEAH THAT’S IT) is likely to have come first…so my "fake" question remains unanswered regardless of Kaitty’s silly unhinged and unsophisticated responses.
So, I was right! It was a head injury. But seriously, Wolfie, your question has been answered a great many times. God gave you two listening ears and one mouth for a reason. - Judge Judy
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mitch2
Oops, I didn’t see Geoff’s post about how to determine the real engineers from the pretend (?) engineers, by finding out who knows "exactly why these fancy fuses work." Sort of a present-day variation on finding out who the witches are by holding them under water.
>>>>A man should be judged by his actions not his words. But since pseudo skeptics never actionally DO anything, we’re left to judge them by their words, and I paraphrase, “Golly, I don’t know how these fancy fuses work.”
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Do a search, Wolfie. It’s the little magnifying glass at the top of the page. If you can’t find it we’ll understand. 🤡
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What?! Whoa! We have a break in ranks! You’re not supposed to agree with him. That’s giving comfort to the enemy. Besides, science CAN explain it. That’s how NASA developed high end fuses for the space game twenty years ago. Hel-loo! Wake up and smell the coffee. ☕️
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jitter dribbles hard to the net but bounces the ball off his foot. 🤡 |
George sometimes reminds of that thing you check the oil level in your car with. 🚕 I can’t think of the name. Darn! Must be a mental block. 😬
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charles1dad
I believe that nearly everyone has an expectation for favorable results when frying a new audio product.
Surely such inopportune Freudian slips as “frying a new product” should be assiduously avoided in threads about fuses. 🤡 Besides, judging from the amount of blowback from skeptics I’m not sure I can agree with the sentiment that nearly everyone has an expectation for favorable results.
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Wolfie, now you’re just being paranoid. 😩
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