The Future of Hifi is just being Discovered

@thecarpathian the definition of cryogenics is:

Merriam-Webster 

: of or relating to the production of very low temperatures

b: being or relating to very low temperatures

This article has to do with how electrons move at very cold temperature. Alas, cables and tubes taken to cryogenic levels seem to effect the electrons to some level that is just being learned. Relax. 

@franklinb66 that's my exact question as well. If electrons flow like fluid, what are the current limitations getting in the way of this. How will electronics, cables and all devices going forward  use these learnings and what Pandora's box does this open up. It seems like new theories are being learned at light speed and how this new lessons are implemented is fascinating. What's even more fascinating are the deniers of everything ala Audioholics and Audio Science Review, but how science isn't waiting for them to catch up. 

@thecarpathian ?

@tablejockey what about cable users? Or cryo on components/tubes? Seem to be there is some effect. 

@thecarpathian essentially freezing an item has to do with the way electrons flow through the item. That's exactly the point. I'm not a +60 year old audiophile like most here, so I found this article about metallurgy and freezing an item to have a scientific approach over an old "I heard a difference" to be interesting and engaging. All I'm saying is cryogenics seems to beginning to have an understand and could be interesting to see what happens for the future of Hifi. No need to come for someone who's interested in progress. 

I’d have a hard time believing studying cryogenics has been going on for decades. Possibly metalurgy, but not cryogenics. But you honestly believe that nothing new or cutting edge is in a scientific journal? A hifi website and a guy has already been down this road? I’m having a hard time trusting that one.

And going back to the article, what it is about electrons working like water at extreme temperatures ie freezing. To claim that those interactions don’t occur unless frozen is not what the article claims, that’s your claim. I don’t claim to fully understand their findings, but you claiming that you understand how electrons work under different circumstances is more farfetched than a scientific journal from some of the top researchers in the field.

@tablejockey it seems as this is just being discovered so I don't think that is the case. Some have their take on tubes, but calling it "audiophoolery" is a disservice to innovation. I don't think brands like Shunyata would be using it if it provided no value. Caelin is a lot smarter than most of the peanut gallery here. 

@tablejockey I gotcha, no hard feelings. I'm just here to learn and to push back when something doesnt quite make sense to me. But I'm also here to learn and listen from those with experience and are open to the dialogue.

The purpose of this post was wholly and entirely to spark dialogue about how electrons can actually flow like water and the effects of very cold temperatures on them. I'm not an expert, just interested in learning  There's a lot of dialogue from want to be experts , but the claims by science people smarter than me seem to conclude differently. 

@petg60 I just was reading about Telefunken cryo'ing their tubes. Interesting stuff on how it smoothes the grains. I even read a few things about how cryo'ing saw blades help them to remain sharper longer and are not dulled as quick when the blades do get warm from friction on a cutting surface. Cool. 

@thecarpathian you seem to be fixated on my thoughts for some weird reason. We don’t agree and you are free to die on your hill of being an expert in Cryogenics. I'm not an expert, but I don't buy what you're selling and it is what it is. It's not as big of a deal to me as it seems it is to you.

@thecarpathian I don't think you've managed to convince anyone here you know what you're talking about, so you can save your "spanking" for your grandchildren. Listen, you aren't intimidating and you are providing zilch to the discussion. Your responses are an appalling and sad attempted at humor and an absolute miss of information. You're upset and triggered, and that's ok. I'd love to learn more on what you have to offer. So if you can get over your infatuation with me and just provide information and data, we all as a collective will be better off without your rambling boomer humor and emojis. 

@thecarpathian What's that saying, "a pot calling the kettle black"? Nice try, have a lovely night you big fountain of information you. 

@tannoy56 probably too much