Devilboy, what can I say that hasn't already been said here. Every once in a while, I come across someone who pangs to put the last nail in the coffin of CD. Perhaps there is a Technical advantage to Hard Drive Music Storage. The Technology is not the problem, it is the abysmal attitude by Computer Manufacturers towards anything High End with Computer Music Storage. In their own words, "The Computer was NEVER REALLY DESIGNED for Music Storage"! So, how long do we have to wait before someone actually DESIGNS a Computer for Music Storage? Forever? Go into Best Buy and talk to Geek Squad about High Definition Multi-Channel Music Storage. WHAT'S THAT? Hey Pal, it's just what you see! So long as I am hearing THAT, I am going to hold on to my CD Player like the only High Fidelity Life Preserver left on the Planet! Put the final nail in the Coffin of CD? What part of, "YOU ARE NOT READY!", don't you understand? Your Computer Industry is in COMPLETE DENIAL that High End Audio even exists in todays market. I presume that you are an Audiophile, Devilboy, why do you support an Industry that says you as an Audiophile don't exist? You are going to trust this Industry to control any future Standard of Sound Quality? They don't even know what Sound Quality is, Hell, they don't even know what an Audiophile is. Don't worry, Devilboy, I still believe you exist even if your Industry doesn't! It maybe small comfort, but it is the best that I can do! |
Ohhhh...Never have I been so misunderstood. What I wrote was a direct quote from another source, the Computer Manufacturing Industry itself. THIS is the source of the laziness in the lack of designing Computers for HIGH END Music Storage and Reproduction. Don't try to attach ME to a direct quote from another source. The question is do you really want the the Industry that claims this, to determine the Sound Quality of the next Format to the mutual exclusion of ALL other Formats, including CD? This Industry has absolutely NO INTENT of ever designing Computers with High Fidelity Music capability because they claim that the Market doesn't demand it. High Fidelity becomes delegated to an isolated FAD, NOT High End Stereo Systems available at multiple outlets across the Country.
I am NOT lazy, in fact I am having a particular Computer built to my specifications for Sound Quality, why? Because I can't find a single Desktop Computer at the local retail outlet with USB 3.0 or an installed Blue Ray Universal Optical Drive. They don't even intend to install USB 3.0 for another couple years. Think that I can't find someone that can design a Balanced Digital off of a USB 3.0 card? Think again! The question is, WHERE IS your wonderful Computer Industry, and why don't they get off of their lazy butts to design the Equipment we need? There are a few, but most of the Industry is still in the Stone Age. Do I want Stone Age Neanderthals determining which Formats need to be eliminated from my use? Hard Drives in the Recording Studios? Don't tell the Geek Squad, they are still working on inventing the wheel in Music Terms. Eventually they will work their way up to rotating vinyl disks. Eventually they will catch up, I guess! "Hey Pal, its just what you see", this guy is going to replace the CD? I don't think so! I sure as hell am NOT going to buy anything from him! |
Jeez...where to begin. Mlsstl, Markets are not born in a vacuum. Not alot of takers on the Light Bulb when it first came out, why? No place to screw it in. Gee, what evil Corporation held it back? As far as not enough customers buying it with no place to screw it in, no wonder we all have to use candles today! There is your Free Market Gentlemen! Newsflash, it is NOT FREE! Someone had to sell the idea BEFORE you have enough customers buying it! The Customers want their Music cheap and dirty, no exception, end of arguement. With that mentality we would still be using cheap and dirty gaslamps, who knows what the hell we would be using for Music! Inventing the Electric Generator costs money. Inventing the Electrical Distribution System for the Light Bulb costs money. Persuading customers to switch from their cheap gaslamps and invest in the much more expensive Electrical System for the light Bulb costs alot of money! All of you must be right, and I am completely wrong! We should have let convenience and expense determine that we keep our gaslamps, and the hell with the light bulb. The Hell with the Phonograph, the Hell with the Airplane, the Hell with the Telephone! None of these things were cheap and certainly not convenient, and NOBODY wanted any improvement in quality of life because it is never cheap and never convenient! Jeez...why not just live under a rock! Certainly those that provided the gas to those gaslamps have a market interest in perpetuating the cheap and dirty society. So I am supposed to accept your rewriting of Economic History and ignore my lying eyes? Pay no attention to that 747 hiding behind that curtain over there-WHAT? How do I get away from this Yellow Brick Road mentality. I'm sorry, I am from a Planet where we DEMAND better quality for our money. Is it not the same here on your Planet? Call the M.I.B., I surrender! P-l-e-a-s-e extradite me! Customers are supposed to DEMAND lower and lower (sound) quality for their money. Can anyone explain to me how that is supposed to work? Is that sort of like everything is supposed to fall upwards due to gravity, I am just not looking at it from the right angle? Its not that I don't like Computer Audio, its that I have a right as a customer to demand better sound quality from Computer Audio. My purpose in life isn't to make things EASIER thereby MORE PROFITABLE for the Industry! I am a Consumer for crying out loud! I am supposed to demand better bang for my buck, not pick up my marbles and go home! Seems to me that I heard alot of people complaining about the Sound Quality of CD when it first came out. Seems to me that I heard just a little improvement through the decades with CD, not most people
completely abandoning the Format when it first came out!
You sly Dogs, you say one thing today, but did the exact opposite back then. You DO believe that Customers should demand better Sound Quality for their money. Call me any name you want, but I will carry on cruxifying Snake Oil salesmen, regardless if they sell Computers or CD Players!
Sorry about that, I am just a Consumer that's funny that way! You want to protect the Industry, well I am a Consumer that is in business for myself as well. I am concerned about MY Corporate profits as well, and the Industry is my competitor NOT my friend! |
When it comes to better Sound Quality from the Computer Industry, WHERE'S THE BEEF? WELL, WHERE'S THE BEEF? Don't give me that it's a nice fluffy bun excuse that I can go shop someplace else! WHERE'S THE BEEF? Unless you think that ALL Consumers should be muzzled. Hey, we are a Nation of complainers. Its the only way to keep everyone on their toes. Yeah, wouldn't it be nice World if no-one complained? Hey Pal, it's just what you see! |
Did IQ's just drop sharply since I have been in the Rubber Room? Do I need more Shock Treatment because I don't believe Consumers should DEMAND lower and lower Sound Quality? Do I need more Shock Treatment because I believe objects fall down, not up?
I don't believe that I have mentioned PRICE even once! I believe that I have been harping on SOUND QUALITY, as in the LACK there of! A portion of Edison's Inventions were indeed failures. Well no wonder he gave up on the Light Bulb. No wonder we should have given up on the Airplane, and the Telephone too! You know there were actually people back then who believed as much. Nice to know that they are alive and well in the "21ST CENTURY", demanding that we give up on Sound Quality as well. How does that work? If God had wanted Man to hear in High Fidelity, he would have given him bigger ears? This is the type of crap that you are trying to sell me?
The CD is NOT dead, and it will never be dead. It won't because it is MY WEDGE to make damn sure that whatever replaces it offers BETTER Sound Quality. Why?
L-E-V-E-R-A-G-E! After the failures of SACD, and DVD Audio the Industry is scared to death of the next Format. They better damn well be because they ALWAYS knew that SACD/DVD Audio didn't REALLY offer better Sound Quality. They have only ONE CHANCE to get it right next time. Do I get upset when someone wants to throw away ANY Leverage that Consumers might have to demand better Sound Quality? Lets kill the CD, and just blindly accept whatever Sound Quality gets handed to us? Well, what exactly makes us Audiophiles? What exactly makes us any different from some poor shmuck still listening to 8-track? We weren't satisfied with the Sound of CD when it first came out, why are we so anxious to do the exact opposite with the CD's replacement? What the Sam Hell is the difference? The Computer Industry doesn't KNOW what an Audiophile or High Fidelity is. THEY ARE NOT READY to replace the CD! Not untill they get their head out of a dark place! |
Kijanki, I still don't know why I am NOT getting through! I am NOT afraid that someone is going to take away my CD's. That is NOT it at all! I want the SAME scrutiny applied to Music Storage that was applied to the CD Format when it first came out, the same scrutiny that should be applied to ANY new Format to replace an old Format. It was only after years of scrutiny, after Manufacturers were finally convinced that existing CD's weren't perfect sound forever, that any progress was even attempted to improve on that Format. Of course this cuts into Corporate Profits, and we can't have that! Ditto for the Computer Industry and Music Storage. You think that I assume that server based system has to sound inferior, it doesn't! The limiting factor on how good a server based system sounds comes from the Computer Industry itself, not me! The Industry has an attitude of, "Hey Pal, it's just what you see"! It is the same attitude another Industry had when CD was first released with, "Perfect Sound Forever". I see how we as consumers dealt with that attitude in the past. Why give the Computer Industry a free pass? We behaved like Audiophiles scrutinizing the new Format of CD when first released. No-one said, hey, if you don't like CD's
,don't buy them. Otherwise, you don't have a right to complain. Why the double standard whenever anyone tries to scrutinize Music Storage? I KNOW that the Computer Industry can do better, and you do as well. There exists NO motivation for the Computer Industry to improve on Music Storage, unless ALL Industries fear that most Consumers will hold on to their CD's no matter what new Format is created. Isn't THAT what most Consumers did with SACD, and DVD Audio? I believe the reason was that SACD/DVD-Audio only SOUNDED slightly better than CD, NOT that SACD/DVD-Audio was only more or less CONVENIENT than CD! So don't tell me that Consumers don't make value judgements about Sound Quality! Well, that is EXACTLY what the Computer Industry is saying. These are the people who you are going to trust to replace the CD? Someone has to say, "NOT GOOD ENOUGH, KEEP WORKING ON IT"! Not, "WELL...IF IT IS JUST WHAT I SEE, I GUESS THAT I HAVE TO JUST TAKE IT"! Lets make sure that we hammer anyone who complains about any lack of Sound Quality. Something the Industry should have done when the first CD came out, instead of allowing Public perception drive us to improve severely cutting into our profits! Can't allow that to happen again! |
And this thing continues on forever. A couple points, Kijanki. You give me Technobabble which is completely meaningless unless you take into account the attitude of the Industry that is producing the Technology. I have already covered the Industries attitude that first produced CD, the same attitude that the current Computer Industry embraces, the same attitude that you embrace. Most Customers are not Audiophiles and only care about (sic) Music, MP3 is good enough. Alright Mr. Technobabble, then remind me again what qualifies an Computer Industry with an MP3 Technological Attitude to replace the CD? Thank God we aren't exactly hiring overachievers to accomplish this task! If you were an Employer, would you seriously hire these people? Isn't that exactly what you are doing tasking them to replace the CD? I'm sorry, but these people aren't simply qualified to do the job, not with their MP3 attitude. I would love to see them do your Taxes with their barely good enough attitude, you would end up in jail for a very long time.
The fact that a majority of consumers still listen to CD's as opposed to SACD/DVD-Audio was a value judgement based on a comparison of the Sound Quality of all three Formats. The slight increase in Sound Quality of SACD/DVD-Audio over CD didn't justify the huge increase in additional costs. Sounds like a value judgement based on Sound Quality comparison to me! It is the 800 pound gorilla
in the room, how can you possibly not see it?
People (or Computer Industry) who believe that basic quality of MP3 is more than enough, are simply not qualified to replace the CD on technical grounds, as well as on so many other levels! What qualifies them? Would you hire a 2 year old Child to be your Lawyer? Well your going to lose! Performance will always count for something, even if most consumers could give a farthing about it! That is certainly NOTHING to be proud of, certainly nothing to be shoving down the throats of others! I am just completely baffled how viraciously everyone argues against higher performance versus MP3, and still call themselves Audiophiles. They seek the destruction of Higher Performance Formats to eliminate the competition to their Lower Performance sacred cow. We have seen this before (ad nausium) with LP and CD. This is nothing new! You aren't fooling anyone. We know want you want to do with eliminating the CD Format! I don't think that you can be more transparent! |
aaannd.........\\!!!B-O-O-M!!!//....KRAKATOA does it again!
BURN! BABY! BURN! OOOOOHHHH! AAAAAAHHHH! WOW! Way bigger than I ever expected! Gee, if only Audiofeil were here to see it! Time is up Gentlemen, the Debate is OVER! It has to end sometime, one Audiofeil in this World is enough!
YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, or if your Audiofeil maybe none at all! See you in the next Lifetime! |
MP3 as perfect sound forever? Here we go again! I know that History has a tendency to repeat itself, but for crying out loud! Some of us are sick and tired of going in circles for Decades! Enough already! Not another Music Storage perfect sound forever, not another MP3 perfect sound forever, not another Downloading perfect sound forever! Not another WAV, FLAC, Loss-less Compression whatever perfect sound forever! Should I continue forever? Please, I pray you get the point by now! Why must I go through this, and you are still not convinced? Here's one, how about the anything but CD perfect sound forever? There you go, CD has been eliminated! How about the anything but LP perfect sound forever. Anything but SACD perfect sound forever-ditto DVD Audio? Will this possibly provide enough convenience for everyone? Maybe what we need is a big fat syrenge so you can inject your Music perfect sound forever!
Does that make your convenience juices flow? I thought it would. |
O-Kay, Kijanki, I called you Mr.Technobabble. I take it back and apologize. You still don't get the point though! What I describe doesn't make any sense because what I desribe is exactly what you and the Computer Industry plan to do with the CD Format! Of course it doesn't make any sense, that is my point! You and your Industry are taking us down the exact same road when CD was first invented. You ever get the feeling of Deja-vue? Those LP's just had to go! Now it is the CD's that just have to go! Are we getting anything in exchange for all of this besides a downgrading of performance? Your right, it doesn't make any sense! I'm sick and tired of going in circles. What is this, Groundhog Day? What is so bizarre is that you aren't even aware that you are going in circles, scratch that, you are in extreme denial that you are dragging the rest of us in circles. Enough is enough, you are not getting the CD Format till you grow up-Period! You can't have it!
Now go cry to your mommy about it! |
Kijanki-I don't know what it is with Computer Music Storage types. This complete obsession over 90% of Customers don't care about quality. What is it with this compulsion of many people buy MP3 Downloads for less? What is it with the desperate behavior of praying for the demise of the CD? What the hell did the CD ever do to you, were you rapped as a child by a CD? Anytime anyone challenges your 90% premise, it's like hitting a nerve on a rabid dog! Why should I CARE about those who DON'T CARE about Sound Quality? What makes these people experts on when and what Formats should be embraced or eliminated?
If they had two brain cells to rub together, they would keep BOTH Formats available to keep their options open. I thought we used to use re-writable optical Disks AS back-up! Lets follow the ultimate conclusion of the logic and reason of this 90%, shall we? Someone comes out with a new Format next year with half of the performance of MP3, but it Downloads faster thereby more convenient. The following year a new Format that halves the performance again, but still faster and more convenient Downloads. Price remains the same for each, cost to manufacture goes down, Profits Skyrocket, and performance goes further in the toilet if that is even possible. You say that I should follow these clever 90% People over a cliff because it is a fact of life! I say hand them a Darwin award, and tell them that they are on their own. Trust me, no-one is even going to miss their apathetic ass! Do I care what 90% are doing, I have been living in the 10% High End percentile for decades figuring live and let live. Now this 90% THINKS they have the right to cross a line and tell me what Formats I should be listening to. They are clueless, part of a herd mentality, the only thing that they are good for is mass suicide. I, on the other hand, have an instinct for self preservation because I am funny that way. I didn't really want to say this and offend so many People, but you have left me no choice. I do have a tendency to try and get along with people, ah..those that aren't persistent on dragging me over a cliff with them. If I have offended those I apologize. Trust me, your offense will be short lived, so don't worry. The real joke is the Industry that is leading you over a cliff, is placing bets on who goes over first. They call it Profit. You call them your best friends forever. This too will be short lived. Those are the facts! Who do you think you are selling your soul to the Devil, and thinking you don't have to pay up! Wake-up! |
Nothing has been taken away YET, Mlsstl. I just see this target painted on the back of the CD Format. Who is ready to pull the trigger, the MP3 crew who can't shoot straight on sound quality. I believe the intent is to lower the Standard for the remaining 10% of us. As if the 90% can't
stand the competition, I know, I know, It makes no sense to me either. As if we, CD, and our 10% are a real threat! Are MP3 types really that insecure? The worst Sounding Quality Format owning 90% of the market isn't enough? Can't share just a little of the Market, gotta hog it all! Never satisfied untill everyone is force fed from the same trough! Can someone please tell me why we can't have both? I'm sick and tired of hearing we can't have both because the 90% say we can't have both. Who are these MP3 90% types? Do they have Masters Degrees in Acoustical Engineering or something? Why would anyone take Sound Quality advice from this group, the anti-sound quality pro convenience group. It's like hiring a child to do Brain Surgery, because 90% said we should! Fine, experiment on your own brain! Leave me, my 10%, and the CD Format alone! Stop playing Format God, your not very good at it (MP3), and besides the position (LP) is already taken (CD)! |
Mlsstl-the numbers are irrelevant. They are nothing but propaganda from the MP3/Computer Music Storage crowd, not to mention the Computer Industry itself. They are an excuse
not to improve on Music Storage. The old line is that the consumer is not interested in Sound Quality. I don't know what the exact numbers are, but they seem to think that they are in a huge majority. They believe that Music should be less about Sound Quality and more about convenience. They have apparently painted a target on the back of the CD Format. They apparently believe that it sounds too good (sic) and it is not convenient enough! They want it gone,that is for sure! You can't even communicate with them unless you argue with them on their level with their own propaganda. I don't believe their crap, but their propaganda is the only language they understand. Thus, the misinformation about the facts. They believe that 90% of Consumers are not interested in Sound Quality, as devine providence from God, an 11th Commandment. An order to eliminate all non-believers and their competing Formats. Convenience, above all other conciderations, is their Holy Jihad! They are proud of that 90%, and they use it like a sledgehammer to get their own way. Industry is more than happy to take more of their money and give them less in return. Not only are they more than happy to donate to the cause, they would gladly donate their life and soul to the cause. I would say that their Industry is more like the ORI from the Stargate T.V. Series. Their Industry gets its power from the belief of its followers. Down with all things of Performance or Quality, they must be purged in the Holy fires of convenience. If you are an Audiophile, and part of the 10%(from their World view, NOT mine), you are part of a slight inconvenience to them. They get REAL upset about that, watch your back. If you listen to CD's-BLASPHEMY- you can run, but you can't hide from them. They aren't ashamed or embarrassed about it, they are quite proud of it. In fact they probably enjoy the power they gain by me sending out the warning, putting the fear of the God of Convenience into everyone. Be forwarned, he is a Vengeful God that shows no mercy! Resistance is futile, we will service them with the upmost convenience! How did I do guys, was that good enough? Was that enough Fire and Brimstone? |
I know that Books burn at FARENHEIT 451. What temperature do CD's melt at? The Computer Industry starts calling their Convenience Minions, "FIREMEN", we are in deep #*!t!
My apologies to Mr. Bradbury! |
Egads! It's like telling the Borg, "thanks, but no-thanks, I prefer keeping my CD's if you don't mind"! Just before the implants ravage your body. There is nothing like being absorbed, and losing all sense of individuality. All of this while in the background someone prattles on about PC's,MAC'S, and Transports. Glorious oblivion to any humanity or mercy. Listening to automaton's on the way to becoming one yourself. Mindless, Spiritualess, absence any heart or emotion. Apparently the War between Man and Machine was fought decades ago, and we lost. The Enemy has met and defeated us, and now we are slowly being converted into them! We are ending up with wires and circuits where our Hearts and Minds should be. Sad! |
Well there you have it, Anti-Democracy in action! Its going to be his way because Learsfool SAYS it's going to be his way! Are you going to take everyone out that doesn't follow your Formula and shoot them? You and who's Army? So it is said, so shall it be done! Much ado about nothing? With so much Testosterone flying, everyone trying to dictate to everyone else what Format they should be listening to! Everyone thumping their chests! Obviously everyone thinks that this is much ado about everything! Just wait untill you see the Fireworks, WOW! You just don't get that kind of response with much ado about nothing! You don't get this much action on All Star Wrestling! Wait...do I hear a pot boiling over some where? Wait...for....it! Wait...for....it! |
Mlsstl- the 90% was never mine, the stats were never mine, and I was never the source of the Propaganda. Neither was I the source of any facts, distorted or otherwise. The Source is a little group of obsessive, compulsive braggards who want to control what everyone else listens to! These People claim to ME, that THEY are the 90% therefore I should shut the hell up and do what I am told, convenient! What is also convenient is YOU laying respondsibility for THEIR propaganda at my feet, can you read, I never claimed ownership of that either! On the contrary, I think that it is insightful into how their little minds, and yours, work. You go on worrying about Stats all you want, I'm talking about intent here! What is the intent behind those who want to get rid of the CD Format? Why are they so desperate to lie, cheat , and steal to accomplish their goal? What is your intent behind laying their intent at my feet? That is really sweet trying to hide your intent behind Stats, nice try. Blaming me for the misinformation of others, now THAT is REAL special! You didn't really honestly think that this was going to work did you? I would say nice try, except it was way too transparent even for that. What was that attempt, a 200 LB. cockroach crawling across a white rug? REAL suttle there Mlsstl, with the finese of a Chimpanzee performing Brain Surgery. I would almost be tempted to believe your rant, except for one very important thing. The fact that you are ranting it tells me that I am hitting a nerve. Was that your honest opinion of me, or were you just squealing in pain? Why do those who believe themselves to be part of their delusional 90% squeal the loudest when they can't get their own way with CD? I can see that I am going to have to keep on pounding on that nerve till I get some answers! Why should you even care what happens to the CD Format? What is it to you? Don't try to couch your answers in Stats, what IS the CD Format to you guys anyways? Is it the most dire threat to Downloading, a clear and present danger that absolutely MUST be eliminated at all costs? Why should you guys even care WHAT Format others are listening to? Conspiracy, nah!
You guys can't EVEN keep a secret. You have your intent written all over your face! If you are trying to perpetuate a Conspiracy, this is the worst bumbling that I have ever seen since Richard Nixon or the Keystone Cops! You can drop the pretence, we ALL know what it is that you guys really want, and it is NOT to help or enlighten the rest of us. It is not about Sex, Music, Formats, Stats, it is about P-O-W-E-R! If you can't have it (CD) you will end up running home crying to your Mommie! What part of NO (CD), doesn't your child like brain understand? |
M-O-M-M-I-E!.....THEY ARE STILL MAKING CD'S!....M-O-M-M-I-E! WWWWWHHHHAAAAAA! WWWWWWHHHHAAAA!
I would say grow up and learn to live with disappointment, but what is the use! |
I will stick around Mlsstl. I will keep pounding on that nerve, because I haven't gotten any answers yet! You guys are part of a Puzzle that just absolutely has to be solved!
Wanting less for your money, NOW THAT IS JUST WEIRD! You guys must know that I can't quit till the Puzzle is solved! |
I believe that Devilboy was addressing me. Who needs Acid when you get twice the Fireworks from pressing buttons. Three times the bang for the buck, it is not illegal, and it doesn't cost a thing. My point, why press buttons, to gather information on those who are self appointed Sheriffs of what Formats I should be allowed to listen to. Yeah, yeah, nothing has happened to the CD's yet. Nice distraction from what it is that you want to do to the CD Format, now is it! If you are going to dictate to me, I want to know what makes you tick! I am curious what makes you the Emperor with his new clothes. I am simply facinated by Narcissistic Characters so wrapped up in themselves, that they can dictate to everyone else what Formats to listen to. You guys are practically Cartoon Characters. Ernst Stoffel Blofeld, Darth Vader, Ming the Merciless have nothing on you. What are you guys going to do next, come out with an evil death ray that will destroy all CD's on the Planet? From my point of view you all seem more like Butters alter ego, Professor Chaos from South Park. What so amuzes me is that you actually believe that you can destroy all of the CD's on the Planet simply by saying so. You believe in your own Fantasy and your own Rhetoric. When anyone challenges your Fantasy, WOW, fireworks. Hey, when we get rid of our CD's, it will be because we want to. Not because you had anything to do with it! No doubt, in your Fantasy you will be dancing a victory dance. You need to wipe the drool dripping on the floor from your mouth. Santa Claus doesn't exist, neither does the Easter Bunny, and you are NOT going to get rid of all of the CD's on the face of the Planet either! This will be the third time, no doubt, that you will be running home crying for your Mommie! When reality hits, it hurts because the Truth hurts doesn't it! What is my point, no point. I do this because I can and it amuses me! You dream of getting rid of the CD Format, but you can't, and this amuses me to no end! With all of this amusement, who needs a point? |
If you could get rid of the CD Format, you would have done so by now. It has already been how many years? Come on Fantasy 90%, make me wake up tomorrow to find ALL of my CD's missing. Make them disappear into thin air! I am going to be REALLY disappointed in you if you don't! It will be just as I figured, you Guys will be nothing but a joke! I will go down to the local Store and buy a HUNDRED CD's. I will recite every Title to you over this Forum. I am going to love hearing you guys squeal and squirm in agony! Point? There is no point in torture! It is just fun to do when someone is begging you to do it to them! |
Timrhu, I get accused of not having a point. I just play the game where the rules keep on changing every 10 seconds. I'm supposed to not have a point, I won't argue the point so I will pretend that I don't have a point. Otherwise, we will all be here on this same Thread for the rest of our lives. Of course I am accused of not having a point, best way of preventing me from making my point by tying both hands behind my back. So I have to use my teeth, pretend that I don't have point to get my point across. The point is the absurdity of the rules that I am being forced to play by here. Anyone with any common sense can see what I just described above is absurd in the extreme, but this is what I am being forced to deal with. I still don't understand why anyone who is more interested in convenience in Audio at the sacrifice of sound quality, would waste their time on a Forum concerning Audiophile Sound Quality. Aren't there other Websites concerning the sale of used Convenience Audio as oppossed to the sale of High End Audio? I see used CD Players going for sale here between $3000.00 and $5000.00. Perhaps someone wanting to get into a Music Server, all the while spending their time on this Forum talking down the value of their CD Players. Then they can't figure out why they haven't been able to sell their CD Player for 6 Months. You guys don't really know what you are doing trying to get rid of the CD Format, no more than anyone knew what they were doing getting rid of the LP. Why do we find out later that we are missing some Music when the CD took over. Ditto for whatever takes over the CD. I try to learn from History, I try my best to not repeat the mistakes of the past. We leaped onto the CD bandwagon without even thinking. What is there to make sure that we are not making the same mistake again? Someone who is interested in Convenience as oppossed to Sound Quality making the decision, doesn't fill me with much confidence. There you have it. My statless, nonfactual, misleading diatribe! Feel free to add whatever other adjective you want to describe, just don't you dare tell me its pointless. We have been down this road before. My point is have we actually learned anything from the first time we have been down this road? We all took that same trip down that same road, I thought the point was obvious. |
There you go! I got a yawn. I knew the point was obvious, I just didn't know it was THAT obvious. Now see what you guys have done, you have forced me to make a completely redundant arguement over something that was completely obvious to everyone. Gee, lose if I have a point, lose if I pretend that I don't have a point (again, your rules). You know changing the Rules when you have run out of arguement is really starting to bore the living Hell out of me! Now you are boring the living Hell out of poor Audiofeil. Hey pal, talk to the people who are conceitedly making up the Rules as they go along, ITS NOT ME! I am just trying to play the game according to their Rules, not my fault if its not conveniently working out to their advantage. Around and around we go, I'm just following their lead! |
O.K.-its back to pretending that I DON'T have a point. I do what I do because I can, and because it amuses me! After so many years of trying, you guys still haven't been able to get rid of the CD, which STILL amuses me to no end! How many more years of trying (yawwwwwnnn!), are we going to have to wait? I will try to hold back my anxious anticipation. You continue beating your head against a wall, meanwhile I'm popping in another CD. You guys wont mind, will you? I know you guys have some real exercises in futility to contend with for the next-what-decade? So facinating to watch the struggle, no wonder you guys have such a short fuse! It must be really fustrating! You can't always get what you wa-ant, you can't always get what you wa-ant! You guys are probably way to obsessed to get what you need! For some reason, I am no longer afraid of you guys succeeding, concidering your track record so far! Why am I NOT suprised? Didn't get rid of the CD yet, huh! Check this out, this is my suprise look,...WWWHHHAAAT! |
No problem. Stick around, I'm going to push a few more buttons. There are some real Firecrackers on this thread with some real short fuses. Who could be bored watching KRAKATOA happening all over again! Your gonna miss the Fireworks! Of course if that sort of thing bores you, maybe you need to ask your phsyciatrist to up your medication. Hate to see a Manic Depressant miss the whole World as it goes by! Geez...doesn't ANYTHING excite you anymore Audiofeil, sounds like a personnal problem, can't help you! |
You are boring the living Hell out of poor Audiofeil. Now, you are boring the living Hell out of poor Audiofeil, tomatoe/tom-a-toe, just a technicality! POOR AUDIOFEIL, he must be one really poor slob though! |
Jdoris-Death Match? The guy can't even stay awake for five minutes! He's already dead! Oh! I get it, it's a joke! Much like the attempt to get rid of the CD was a joke, and I was foolish enough to take it seriously! Hey, I'll bet the guy can't even hold his eyes open for 30 seconds, any takers? By the way, anyone seen him recently. Oh, let me guess, he's sleeping under a rock. You might end up having a whole lot of Fans demanding their money back on this one, Jdoris, It sucks to be you!
CD's perfect sound forever, Rgs92? Why don't you guys come clean and admit that you are all nothing more than
A.I.N.O. Audiophiles in name only. It is so obvious that you guys are just trying to protect your jobs in the "Computer Industry"! Does the Industry give you a Bonus
to go on Websites to promote the Industry? Either that or are you guys just trying to make me laugh to death with your pathetic attempts? I know, I know, I am the Paranoid Conspiracy Theorist. Except you guys couldn't form a Conspiracy if your life depended on it.
Will someone PLEASE check on Audiofeil, the guy could have lapsed into a Comma or be dead by now! I suppose that you could always stuff him and put him on display. You could stuff him with the same B.S. that you guys have been trying to feed me. Who do you guys get your marching orders from anyways, Inspector Closeau? Until neest time, caseess solved! Now I'm scared! |
Weekend at Bernies, is going to have to become Weekend at Audiofeils. I bet that he would still get layed more than this group. Not tonight Hon, I have to spend a few hours Downloading Music. Aren't you guys the life of the party, congeniality gentlemen all! |
Swampwalker-based on your premise, not mine, its NOT O.K. for Bill to bait a chained bear, but bit IS O.K. for you? Is there ANYONE in this Forum that practices what they preach? How do you expect me to take your Moral Veracity seriously even if, as you say I am "off my Meds"? What Drug could I possibly take that would make me oblivious to your contradiction? What Drug could you possibly be on to think that I would overlook your contradiction? What does it say about you Swampwalker when someone, "Off their Meds", can still see through you? It's not me pal, its you being the Emperor and his new clothes. Did you really expect that not a single person in the crowd would point at Swampwalker, and scream, "Look, he's not wearing any clothes"! Do you really dilude yourself into believing that you are that omnipitent? I am pretty certain that you are flesh and blood, and not a member of the Q Continium!
What do you guys do all day, stare in a mirror all day repeating to yourself, "ARE YOU TALKING TO ME, ARE YOU TALKING TO ME"? I need Drugs, to stop laughing so hard that I might rupture something, at the sight of this spectacle. Please, get help for this dilusional Narcissism. You are NOT a James Bond Super Evil Villain who is going to take over the entire World by destroying ALL of the CD's in it! That is just Fantasy Crap, maybe your Mommie can explain it to you if I can't! We have had the second explosion of KRAKATOA, shall we continue building up pressure under MOUNT SAINT HELENS for the second time? You are worried about Trainwrecks, put your clothes on first before I can take you seriously. Never mind, that Train has already left the Station! |
And I am done with this Guy! Next Keystone Cop/Professor Chaos/General Disarray/Ernst Stoffel Blofeld/Richard Nixon/Taxi Driver/Member of the Q-continium/full time Employee of the Computer Industry, step right up! Yeah, yeah, you are NOT a crook. Shut the Hell up Ernst, before I start looking for someone with a license to kill! Gotta take you out before you take out the CD's you narcisistic Freak! They just keep on comming! Who are you going to send next, the National Guard? |
Hold on Newbee, It's going to be a bumpy ride! Product Hell is waiting for the Compact Disk, Timrhu? No doubt Product Hell is still waiting for the LP! Waiting, and waiting, and waiting, and waiting, and waiting, and will STILL continue waiting. Gee, what happened to your Evil Plot to take over the World by getting rid of the LP, NUMBER ONE? You DO KNOW the price of failure, DON'T YOU?
You claim you will do so much better with the CD? Why should we let you off of the hook, when you certainly wouldn't let anyone else off of the hook, NUMBER ONE? Are you stroking a White Cat verrry slowly as you type that keyboard? Isn't it time that your Organization select a NEW NUMBER ONE? You guys are going to self distruct on your own over your obsessive fustration with the CD! I really honestly don't think that the CD is an EMMINENT, CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER to Downloading. What about the Guy who wants both? Are you going to take him, and his whole family, out and shoot them because he posseses a CD? Are you gonna do a KAIZER SUZE on him. Are you guys pretending to be the USUAL SUSPECTS, the MP3 crowd that can't SHOOT straight on Sound Quality? Look, create your own Websight of CONVENIENT STEREO, in opposition to AUDIOPHILE STEREO, more power to you! Stop being the Black Cockroach crawling across the White Rug of Audiophile Stereo, disillutioning yourself that no-one is going to notice you, you are a joke! Oh, yeah, I'm done with this guy too! Still awaiting for the National Guard, they should be a little more of a challenge! |
What do you know, you guys ARE serious! Tanks are rolling across my lawn as I speak. Look at that! My Taxpaying Dollars hard at work coming to arrest me, and confiscate my CD's as well! Last Word, Gotta Run! These Guys are S-E-R-I-O-U-S!!! |
