the best CD player between 6'000 - 10'000 $ ?

thanks a lot everybody!

what about a Jadis Player?

I have heard yesterday for 1st time the Jadis jp80 mkII (a preamp) compared to the ARC ref 3 ... I was deeply impressed ...

so that's why I ask if somebody knows whether the Cd player is as good as the preamp ...?

thanks again

PS I will to try to hear all your recommendations

But it just reinforces how important it is to match your components.

so making it (too?) simple, the first step of a searching process could be:

with a solid state preamp-amp- speaker analitical / bright combination, look for tube CD or "warm" players (AMR 77, Jadis, AR ref 7 ...)

with a tube preamp-amp-speaker combination, look for something with high resolution and analitical

wrong?

I have shortly heard the Marantz 11s1, not on my system

imo a "politically correct" player ...

not fast, not slow
lacking precision and definition for my taste
but neither warm like some tube CD Players

musical? yes but like a musician whithout a strong personality

just my subjective impression

PS what about Lua appassionato Mk III ?

Karelfd,

at the moment in Bangkok but living mainly in Europe

PS amazing high-end scene here in BKK

musicality & acuracy....Where did the idea that they're mutually exclusive come from???

I believe because when you hear a lot of details, pink and white noise on the strings for example, the sound can become a little bit agressive in the mid-high range and the whole picture may not appear so organic ...

it's like standing on the podium in front of a symphony orchestra, your hear "strange" noises and sitting in the hall on the 21th row where the whole acoustic information arrives mixed at your ears ... and loses some details

make the test with a violin player, stand very close and then at some 5 meters ...

the pratice on cables:
-Shunyata Antares gives me less details but shows an organic musical whole picture of the music
- NBS active III is faster, show more details but is less pleasant to hear

I have got the ML 39 to try at home. As the J.R. monoblocs are brand new and not broke in, to take for what it is

ML 39, great change after the Denon 2700
more details, definition, better defined soundstaging, some frequencies (middle high range less agressive)
... some adjectives: analitical, clean, precise but without warmth ... but please remenber monos not fully broke in

that said I am impressed and wouls like to know how it compares to all your recommendations

at the end I explode the budget ;-)
after hearing:
Audio Research CD7 (very nice musicality)
Krell 505 (with newest preamp and monos with Magico V3 ... a catastrophy!)
Wadia 581 ( on the same system, more musical but the cable wasn't obviously a cast ... very slow mechanism!!)
Esoteric combi 03 (incredibly analitical with Viola preamp, Manley monos & Amati Palldium)
MBL combi (beautifull sound but too expensive, with Pass pream & monos with MBL 101 ... what a mistake! the bass desastrous)
EMM Labs single box ( maybe a little slow? Pass integrated with Avalon Sentinel ... waouh what a loudspeaker!!!)
Emm Labs combi (same system, incredible details coming out)
DCS P8 (very good with JR Capri + monos 501+ Avalon ascendant)

finally I decided to buy the ...

DCS Puccini ... analitical and very musical ... the perfect combination for my sytem

before having it home, I could listen to it on the Avalon Indra & Sentinel