Telos Mini Quantum Resonator (MQR) & Puron Filter together


So, I have been a big proponent of the Puron Filters, they have been an awesome addition to my system. I now have a total of 10 of them plugged into my 3 different dedicated lines. Highly recommended!

Recently, I have tried the new Telos Mini Quantum Resonator (MQR). It is close to the physical size of the Puron Filter and also just plugs into the wall, but it has a different look. Kinda nice looking unit. I now have purchased 2 of them.

I’ll cut to the sound quality comparison. While the Puron expands the soundstage the Telos MQR deepens the image. It adds a heft to the music. More meat on the bones as they say. But too many Telos’s (MQR) though and the soundstage gets hardened. Whereas additional Puron’s is a good thing.

Plugging the Telos (MQR as the Puron) into my Niagara power conditioners is still not a good thing. They benefit the most being plugged into the wall outlet that the conditioners are plugged into.

Now a surprising location for the Telos (MQR) was into the power strip in another room that powers my computer equipment. i.e., Modem, EtherRegen, After Dark Clock and power supply.  At this location, my streaming from Qobuz improved in overall sound quality. I’m thinking because in this power strip there are more digital nasties that this device goes after.

So, both units together do provide an added synergy. It is hard to use one without the other. I now have one Telos (MQR) in my main system dedicated circuit and another with my computer equipment.

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I have extensieve experience with Telos and several other power conditioning products and tweaks, not Puron though. And will share some thoughts and findings.

I have several of the Telos QNR 5.1, the Macro-N and the Mini-Q.

The QNR 5.1 is a wonderful unit. The QNR is not available anymore, I believe it is because of shortage in supplier chain. But good thing is that Telos is working on a new version, according to info I got from Telos this new unit is planned for next year. I dont know if older version can be upgraded to the new one.

The Mini-Q is said to be 70% of the QNR. Telos says that on their web site, and I saw some mentioned it here in this thread. In my findings that is an exaggeration, more 40-50%. But the Maco-N could be around 70% according I think.

What is good with the Mini-Q is that you dont need an extra power cable.

The Macro-N and especially the QNR is very sensitive to power cords. I have ended up with power cords for them costing the same or more as the unit itself, and it has been worth it. For exampe I use Ansuz P2, A2 and even C2 power cords on the QNR and that elevates the performance into the stratosphere. For the Macro-N I use Nordost Heimdall2 with figure 8 connector. I have tried less expensive cables from Audioquest and Furutech but that decreases the performance.

Since I bought a lot of Telos gear during the pandemic, I have upgraded with other products that makes everything better. I believe in mixing different power conditioning gear as they compliment each other. For example I also use products from Add Powr, Akiko, Ansuz, Nordost, Vortex, Kemp and High Fidelity (unfortunately now out of business).

@ozzy I guess they are good. I live in Europe, and haven´t found any sign of dealer here and having Puron available with Schuko. Maybe you know?

I dont know about Telos technology, but what they do for both audio and video differ from Nordost according to my experience. And I have plenty of every Nordost QRT product, including the new QWave and QSine, and Telos over several years. Also comparing Telos to Add Powr (run by the man behind the Nordost QRT products), they are very different. But IMO they compliment each other very nice.

To others who experiment with one plug in the wall next to the outlet for your conditioner, why not add a power strip and add several and dfferent power plugs. If you have space and funds for it of course.

And, if you are not quite happy with a product in your stereo, before you sell it or return it, try it on your ac line for your refrigerator or freezer. I have found that reducing amount of noise going back to meter board from these devices helps a lot, even with dedicated ac lines for stereo.

@bemused , I have been a pretty hard core enthusiast in more than 20 yrs and have far more tweaks and power conditioning gear that could be considered as "normal". For example, I have more power conditioning gear on my regrigerator or my freezer than other entusiasts have in a large stereo system. So yes, it makes a huge difference. Actually, I have tweaked my systems so heavily that it is easier for me to hear upgrades I do on other ac lines, like the ones for refrigerator, freezer, ventilation etc. I don’t say that should be normal, but that is how it is in my house, even with dedicated lines, upgraded fuses in my meter board etc.
So I don’t use one brand of power conditioning gear for these devices (refrigerator and freezer), but from many brands,typ. Ansuz, Nordost, ADD Powr, High Fidelity, Furutech and Telos. I also have Darkz damping feet for several of these, Furutech distributors and high end power cords - and even Shakti stones behind them... go figure! Yes, I know it sounds crazy, but I wouldn’t change it:) If I remove one piece I easily hear it in my stereo.

@justubes2, I find the Nordost QWave to be stronger than the Qv2, it is also supposed to work not only in lower bass region as the Qv2, but also upper bass. The QSine is kind of invisible, but just makes everything more transparent, also in higher frequencies, gives more air and bigger soundstage. It is easy also to see with video, the picture gets crystal clear. I find it to be better and more neutral than Qk1. It can remind a little of ADD Powr, but still they are different, hard to explain... IMO, both QWave and QSine do not limit dynamics at all. I have never tried Purons.

justubes2, I see you have been playing with various plugs too:)
Too much Ansuz on the stereo ac line can make bass too heavy in my experience, especially the older version of the Sparkz. Their new Sparks TC3 is much better than previous generations. But they are very effective noise killers, and the older versions work very well also on other power lines. I have both TC2 and TC3 plugs in my home theater also.

For Nordost QWave/QSine/Qv2/Qk1 they also are good on other lines, but I think they are products you typically prioritize to have on your stereo ac line. And here I prefer to have as many as possible of them. They do no harm, only good. Same with ADD Powr, especially the bigger units, but some of their plugs work well on other lines. And the same with Telos QNR and Macro N. For the Mini-Q I find it better to have them on other lines since they are not quite in the same league as their bigger brothers.

I have put ADD Powr Symphony Pros where I earlier had Nordost Qx2/Qx4 so the Qx2/Qx4 units I have are no primarily serving on other lines. I have them on both my refrigerator and freezer where they do a really good job:)

I am familiar with the HFC helix plugs. I have plenty of them and really love them, so what you say about Puron sounds very promising - and tempting! I found a US dealer who could deliver with Schuko plug. We´ll see...

The Ansuz Sparkz TC3 and Nordost QWave are very different. Think of Wave closer to what you already know about Nordost. The Ansuz is mostly about bass enrichment/enhancement. And I find them to be very effective on other power lines to kill noise. 

Btw, there are two plugs I have tried that I have ruled out;
- Furutech Clear Line - seems to be good initially, but when you add a lot of other good products I found them to become a bottleneck.

- Chord power array - far to strong and negative impact on dynamics

I have just tried a new SR UEF AC plug, it seems rather good, but don't have enough experience with it yet.

I use iFi iPowerX power supply on my Add Powr Symphony Pros. What do you use?