"I will say this one time, stay off this thread! Sorry Keith, but you cannot control a public forum. I personally have compared many cable’s to taralab’s top cable’s No you haven’t Keith. all the choices I’ve listened to sound broken in comparison! Only to you, in your highly biased mind. @calvinj , @rsf507 , it really is sad to watch a clueless man walking around muttering to himself. You would think that Tara Labs would be embarrassed and ashamed to have their name associated with a thread where one man simply talks to himself endlessly, but who knows? Maybe Matthew Bond figures that there is no such thing as bad publicity. I know that this thread is one of the reasons that I have stayed away from Tara Labs cables. I would be too embarrassed to tell anyone here that I owned them due to this thread." Very well said...thanks to the poster above and to others who have tried to inject logic into this thread. For Keith/alternate IDs and friends: This thread needs to die (IMHO-only) and the copy-pasting needs to end please. BTW, SuperAnnealing as referenced by Tara is a sophisticated process and they have trademarked their variant of it but they by no means invented the concept of super annealing. They do many great things in their conductors, starting with their SAOF-8N wire and their rectangular conductor approach and their particular variant of SA. Annealing has been written about in detail since 1904 and extremely advanced annealing variants in semi-conductor and other markets (including high-end wire and electronics production) particularly over the past 20 years are more. Here's one example; https://www.google.com/patents/US8349724There are quite a few others as well. You would do Tara a big favor by stopping this way of "supporting them". You are putting so many people off from considering the brand that it defies logic. Why not simply support them by using the style of user testimonial your wrote in 1 great paragraph, which was very good by the way, that's on their website? You'd help them a lot more if you took this approach versus the one you use on this forum. |
I stand properly corrected; you've owned or done detailed testing with EVERY major brand of cables and model thereof in the world,...WOW! For the rest of your response, I am afraid you are missing my point (again). The objection/constructive criticism is not that you are supporting the brand but it is how you are chipping away are people's perception of the brand by the way in which simply continue to copy-paste tons of text time and time again. People can find all that out there...post things that are new, unique and your own opinion. For the record (again) I'll say what you sent to Tara that's actually on their website under your UserID is great feedback and I am sure, helped some potential or current customer.
'nough said...have a great day! |
Corrections/mistyping while on phone/on the go corrected below;
Audiolabyrinth: I stand properly corrected; you've owned or done detailed testing with EVERY major brand of cables and model thereof in the world,...WOW! For the rest of your response, I am afraid you are missing my point (again). The objection/constructive criticism in my replies are not that you are supporting the brand but rather how you are chipping away at people's perception of the brand by the way in which you simply continue to copy-paste tons of text time and time again. People can find all that out there...please post things that are new, unique and your own opinion. For the record (again) I'll say that what you sent to Tara that's actually on their website under your UserID is great feedback and I am sure, helped some potential or current customer. Also,..please tell your alternate IDs, and friends to stand down.
'nough said...have a great day!
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Good Morning Keith,....if you are asserting that birdiemay, dimebagbirdie, woogie, etc...have no relation to you, 1 or 2 don't hang out with you, no GF/BF thing going on, etc... and you don't know them at all, then their IP connection records maintained by Audiogon would show they are nowhere near you and not using IP Addresses on the same sub-net and even possibly the same computer. I assume you knew this capability exists on the WWW?
Seriously...you are accusing others of impersonating; I think you are wrong about melbguy; he's straight-up and very frank/knowledgeable in all his posts. I truly don't think he needs to have a ghost ID to interact and differ in opinion/otherwise with you or anyone else! Just my 2 cents on posting on some common threads where we don't always agree over the years! |
"Geez fellas. This guy loves Tara Labs cables and started this thread himself. He has been rolling along for nearly two years, posting to the wind and to whomever may read it. Some have participated and others have just ignored it.
Isn't there enough malice in the country/world already? Just let him be for goodness sake. Leave the spreading of hatred to the main stream media.
Dave"
dlcockrum: Good point,...will try to ignore all his posts from now on! |
We like to see virtual systems photos posted as well so we comment and compliment others on their systems and learn from them. I think labryinth, birdiemay (dimebag or otherwise) and woogie should post virtual systems.
Woogie: Good to meet you! Never heard of those speakers, please post info and pics! |
Going back about 4 years or a bit more, I owned alot of The One interconnects and speaker cables and later moved to a combination of 0.8 HFX and 0.5 HFX (after healthy amounts of trials of 0.8 with ISM Onboard).
For speaker cables I found a shotgun run of The ONE to be my favorite over a single pair of 0.8 speakers cables (for The ONE a shotgun run is 2 complete pairs of course but for Tara, this is 4 individual cables to each speaker as Tara has (an approach that I liked very much) a practice of separating positive and negative sides of the run into individual cables. Both my dealer and Matthew B. told me that for full-range speakers that open up considerably the lower the effective gauge and higher the amount of great copper that you give them, the shotgunning The ONE was superior to a single pair of the 0.8s. I stand by that statement and enjoyed the config very much. It was very musical and involving and while not the highest precision imaging I have heard to-date, it was a very good configuration for 2 different speaker generations that I owned.
For analog XLR ICs, I found 0.8 with HFX was superior to ISM Onboard; much more resolving and full range, better bass clarity, mids tonality and high frequency extension etc....
For digital (AES and other ICs), I found the 0.5 with HFX was superior to anything in the line I had owned or auditioned. If memory serves, 0.5 became (or was used as the basis for) the Gold Onyx part of the line.
Models and position in the line today may require modification as my ownership experience goes back a few years but the main point is that I had very good experience with these cables and found the sweet spot for price, value and return on investment for speaker, analog XLR and digital interconnects at least relative to my system at the time. |
"Hi zephyr24069, I enjoyed reading your post, informative, I once used the One speaker cable's for bi-cableing myself, in my opinion and experience, I found running the Omega jumper 10" cable's to sound hugely better in every way than bi-cableing 8ft or 6ft speaker cable's, at the time I bought the Omega jumper's-speaker cable's, they were special order and was the flagship of the small cable's for this application, they are made exactly like the Omega gold speaker cable's, just smaller in diameter, now, they are second in the line up, the new flagship jumper cable is the new Evolution."
Are you saying you ran a 10" set of jumpers in place of a full pair of speaker cables Keith?
Also,...with Tara the main benefit gained via upgrades, particularly in speaker cables always was gains in the sheer number of Tara's rectangular conductors (a good thing); if the jumpers are made 'exactly like the Omega Gold full speaker cables, how are they smaller in diameter? Did they cut down on the number of conductors or is the geometry of the cable different? Thanks! |
Melbguy.....Good Day! You are very welcome; I just don't see how Tara Labs for all I remember having been a loom-owning customer myself in years past, could get behind or excited about the drivel/other things you cite that we know to be true. I guess some people think any kind of press is good press these days :-) Enjoy your day and the music! Hope your system and life are treating you well! |
I believe that when you get a new cable, it’s called ’burn in’. |
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melbguy: Glad to hear the system is treating you well but sorry to hear about life not doing so; whatever it is, I hope it gets better for you very soon. As for the rest,...well, 'speechless' would suffice! |
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Woogie: Well said,...sounds like you have your priorities and how you listen and evaluation well squared away. Having owned a prior version of the 0.8s with HFX and 0.5s with HFX in the past (and having the chance to demo them against Gold at the time), I agree with your assessment that the 0.8 with HFX were extremely good and any money over and above that should be weighed carefully for its best use relative to components in the system, etc....
Jmc: That's too funny! You hit that nail right on the head! |
It is sad that JMC’s posting was removed; it did not violate any forum rules or guidelines and was clearly meant in jest. We should not have an environment where such censorship is occurring yet we have members who can propagate disinformation and the wrong facts on a thread to promote one manufacturer or another at the expense of accuracy and respect for other members.
The offices are only 12 minutes from my house...so near and yet so far! |
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Oh Boy Oh Boy Oh Boy....we be blogging now!!!! ROTFLMFAO!!! |
"And thennnnnnnn??!!"
Somebody hurry,....copy-paste something before the thread dies LMAO!!! |
I agree with you that ALL cable manufacturers should deflate their pricing Audiolabrinth. |
Well, that was predictable wasn't it?!?
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Tara seems to have updated their site dramatically complete with new graphics, cable cross-sections in some cases and some good rewrites on older verbiage. I highly recommend using their site as a reference for anyone interested in their cables! |
In a truly sad piece of news, I've just read that Dr. Ohno, a true innovator and visionary who invented the Ohno Continous Cast (OCC) process for small gauge wire has passed away.
RIP Ohno-san... |
Indeed....it must be a bad week,...just read that J. Geils passed away too. |
It used to mean something else and probably still does in some cases :-) |
