Taralabs cables

Melbguy1, almost forgot, I also got a used Tara Labs Cobalt 3ft with oyaide Tara factory terminated power cord, I am happy with it, got a great deal on it here on audiogon a year ago for $1,000.00, can't beat that, since a new one like mine for 6ft is $5,450.00, it's on my digital, although it is made for pre-amps and power amps, it was the only option I had to use it, Happy listening.

Tara Labs has come out with three more new power cords, The Cobalt Refferance, The Evolution Omega, and The Evolution Grandmaster power cords that have not made it to the Tara labs site yet, However, anyone can call Tara labs and ask about them, they are selling them now.

Misternice, The stealth v12 did not work to satiesfaction on your cd-player?, I never heard of the brand Revelation Audio Labs Precpt 2 power cord, you may consider telling me info on that and bring me up to date,$650.00 with free ww wide delivery is really good, cheers.

Melbguy1, just let me know when you do the review, and I like to read it, anyway, you can talk about equipment all you want here, but maybe you might be right about a very long review here on this thread, would be nice for you to jot a few sentences about anything audio, It would be for my benefit to learn about the audio you have that I have no exsperience with, I'm sure other readers may chime in as well too,Thankyou for the reply, cheers

Melbguy1, Thankyou for all the replies, was you going to do a new thread on the Jorma statement cable review?, you are welcome to do it here as well, or both, so you orderd just one recepticle with one connection for one chord?, I only need a total of two of the recepticles with two outlets on each one myself, to tell you the truth, I have never been a fan of connecting more than one componet to an outlet to the begin with, I tried that with the dedicated amp line, that was funny, it seemed like the amp sucked all the power from the cd-player that it needed to sound it's best, so yeah, I understand and agree, one componet per recepticle, cheers.

misternice, I look forward to what all that you say about where, and your impressions of the sound of your stealth v-12 power cords here, correct me if I am wrong, is'nt the v-12 power cords the new top model power cord from stealth?, Happy Listening.

cavinj, I have not bought new recordings in a long time, thus the request to drop kick me a few if you can, welcome to the thread.

Misternice, I would be very careful of such deals as the one you specified of the Tara Zero Gold, I say this because Tara labs is well known to have chineese countefiet cables out there world wide!, also, I will tell you, I have never seen an authentic Tara labs With the HFX grounding station for no less than $7,000.00 u.s.d. for one meter on the used market ever!, there was a few different zero interconnects over the last 17 years, The best version is with the HFX grounding station, and the serial number will tell you if it is beyound 5 years old, they made changes inside the cable for improvements to work it's Best with the HFX station, the old version says, zero on the grounding station, that was the second type of station over the years, the first original station said, Tara labs on the station, The HFX version has two times the cerelex compound inside as all the others, and it has componet ground as well, the others do NOT, Hope this helps, cheers.

Melbguy1, I have some good news, Matt there on the dac shoot out is looking to buy a used Romulas, He E-mailed me, I would contact him If I were you, this could be a sale for your unit, good luck Melbguy1, I was looking out for you and told him of your unit, cheers.

Thankyou melbguy1, I look forward to such a great read, Awsome!, BTW, I did tell Matt that your player was Australia power set-up, the rest is between the both of you, cheers.

Calvinj, Hi, I hope you all the best with your tara labs-The one interconnect sale, However, I believe you need to correct the info on the sale, meaning, There is no such cable that is ISM on Board and still can be used with some type of grounding station!, The cable leads and the pig tails that come out of the interconnect WILL NOT fit into a HFX grounding station,I know, I personnaly tried it with my Tara Labs The one with ISM on board interconnect, thus cannot be used, secondly, The ISM on board is the grounding station made onto the cable in the signal path of the cable, This is to roll off the resolution to accomadate bright systems that do not require top resolution, instead, musicality, anyway, I am only tring to help you, that is all, good luck my friend on your sale, cheers.

Tboooe, Hi, did you decide on a brand of digital cable, or did you get a Tara Labs digital cable?

melbguy1, Hi, Do you use after market power cables?, I have a very good one on the cd-player, However, I am interested in going to listen or have Tara send me the new Tara labs Omega Evolution power cord, very exspensive, It's the new second from the Grandmaster Evolution power cord, I was thinking, If that power cord was a revelation in sound performance, I would send my amp back to Krell and have them hard wire the Tara Power cable on it, I asked if they would, they said yes, If that power cable is anything it is suppose to be, that would send my amp to extreme transparency and state of the art sound?, Do you believe hard wireing a power cord is better than the way of the IEC?, I was told that it is, less contacts, direct, just an idea I am counterplating to do over the next two years, thanks David.

Thankyou for your reply Tboooe.

yes, I have considered all that you have said Melbguy1 about the power cable on the power amp, I will say this, I may or may not one day get a better amp than the one I have, what I am saying david, I will not sale my amp ever, I have over $11,000.00 u.s.d. in a $14,000.00 amp, she will ride off into the sunset with me, whether she is on the main system, or a second system, LOL!, or in the closet, It's a collector to me anyway, David, you should see the stock power cord on this thing, it's huge to be stock, krell had a third party vendor make it, and you guessed it, the power cable is hard wired on the amp from the factory, the cx line is the only amp model in the history of krell they hard wired the power cable to the amp, that's all the cx stereo amps, and the mcx mono blocks as well, the stock power cord on my amp is 9'ft long!, sounds good to me, however I was thinking of some modds for long term, just an idea spinning in my head David, cheers.

Sts, all of the cables made by Tara Labs is the specs you provided here, speaker cables, all forms of cables they hand make all of them, their top shelf cable models take time to build, man, I would hate to be a cable builder of those top models, a huge under taking from what I have been told by Tara labs, Their is one model of interconnect that Tara Labs just introduced that is brand new to the market place, called The 0.3, it is the only interconnect in the history of Tara labs that uses a pure silver shielding in the cable, NOT the conductor, cheers.

Melbguy1, I have a $5,450.00 retail for 6ft, Cobalt power cord with Oyaide IEC and plug terminated at Tara Labs here now, my power cord is 3ft, that is on my vincent cd-s7 that has two 12ax7 tubes, one 12au7 tube, and a 6z4 recetifier tube in the power supply, It was a HUGE game changer on the entire sound of the system, being I only have the player and a amp for componets, cheers.

misternice, you have been quite busy on your system, I was not aware that voodoo made recepticles, I am glad that they are working to good effect for you, I bet your system sounds spectacular, I wish I could listen to it, On another subject that you and melbguy1 can weigh in on, Is the power grid there better than the u.s.?, I noticed you guys are not on 110.

Sts, I have no idea to be honest where they have their conductors made at, the term, made in the u.s.a to me means assembled and enginered here, I would call Tara labs, I do not believe they have any reason to not be honest with you, report back here with your findings, that is a topic I have never thought to ask Tara labs, BTW, I talk to them on a regular bassis, cheers.

Melbguy1, tell me about the vitus digital, I watched a youtube video of the intergrated amp you have, and the digital you getting, with the magico speakers you have, check it out, I believe they are useing different cables though?,

misternice, Hi, I talked to the service manager, Ray Mulchler of krell tuesday to just chat, really cool dude, when he found out about my musician past he was suprised, and so was I when he told me that he had 14 guitars, He is 59 and has been playing since he was 12 years old, He plays through a marshall stack with a marshall 50 watt tube head, I do not know if you know about electric guitar tube amps, 50 watts is loud as hell when you turn the juice up!, Ray knew alot of the heavy metal and many other other artist I know of from the past to present of other genres, when we had that conversation, The conversation made my week, awsome!

If you look at the site closly, the occ is gone, it is a FACT that Tara labs makes their conductors 99.999999% mono crystal,hand polished,oxygen free,Eight nines copper!, It's still on the site, you cannot do nothing about it at all, Tara labs has the very Best conductors in the world!, why you cannot handle that is beyound me!, for your information, the only occ copper Tara Labs has ever used under license was a six nines occ copper that was bought years ago they do not use anymore in anything, you do not have a good source where your information is coming from, the reason being, Tara Labs is not going to tell you!, really, you are the cable manufactuer of Gabriel Gold cables, and you did not put a disclaimer on this thread saying so!, BTW, is a big booo, booo, not to be rude here, find something better to do than to try to prove Tara Labs is not legitime, you know, if you keep this up, Tara labs may contact you with a bad formal notice!

further more, what is funny here is Tara labs developed a copper conductor that is superior than the occ copper you are talking about, that is the sole reason they abandoned the use of occ copper conductors, if you do not believe me, read their site, and this will not be corrected, the use of the term occ was an error on the site by the site developer that is contracted by tara labs to build the web site!, Tara labs DID NOT make the mistake!, the only thing that was removed is the term occ, LOL!, everything else stayed!, see ya

where is your dis-claimer!, why are you on this thread?, take your conversation to tara labs, you are the owner and designer of gabriel Gold cables!, I am a consumer, not the tara labs company!, This thread is for the fans of tara labs, users world wide, and those who know nothing is better!

Welcome back to the thread Sts, I have been told by a few members exactly what you posted, Is it difficult to install an furetech IEC?, my wife solders for a living in a electronics factory, she is tops there and trains many, I have looked at the furutech IEC's and there appears to be a diagram for a cut out involved, I assume the IEC may be bigger than a factory one?, or is there a universal standard size for all?

Thankyou Melbguy1, you are correct,I apoligize to the both of you, this thread is the peoples thread, you can talk about any cable, or componet,speakers, you like, thankyou for the Tara labs website correction of the term, occ, however, The fact is, Tara Labs has developed their conductors to be superior to the occ casting process as said on the web-site correction, Tara Labs conductors are mono crystal 99,999999% 8 nines, oxygen free, super annealed conductors, cheers.

Melbguy1, Thankyou for the great read on the vitus equipment you gave here, very interesting, The vitus equipment is very costly!, anyone that owns some of this equipment is fortunate!, my question is, Are there service centers in the u.s. for warranty repairs or normal repairs, up-grades, etc..?, If so, How many, and where, so the readers will know this product is supported here in the u.s.a., cheers.

Melbguy1, Hi, Thankyou for telling all of us here that there is support in the u.s. for vitus equipment, I just got my first abosute sound audio magazine yesterday, first one that i have gotten since 1997!, I have a friend here in town where I live that has the Magico Q-3 speakers, he is a strange character, He claims that his mid-range driver is blown, this was last spring, for the last few months, he has refused to allow me to listen to his system, and he has not fixed the speakers, he is loaded with money, so that is not the issue, I do not know if his speaker is fixed now, I lost interest with tring to listen to his system because he was weird about the situation?, I did put my hands on them though, man, built like tanks is an under statement!

Melbguy1, I have known the guy I am talking about for years, we used to best friends in the late 90s untill he tried to take my krell amp that I had then when I let him borrow it for an audition!, it was an krell FPB 200, He has always had a wonderfull system, however, for the life of him, he seemed to have anamosity toward me for haveing a better sounding system than he did for a whole lot less money!, of course I had tara labs cables then too,as always, he stuck more money in his componets and speakers, while I stuck money in cables and profound resonance control I invented!, that could be the posisbility as to why he does not want me to listen to his system?, some things never change, right now he has the Rega Osirus intergrated amp that retails for around $10,000.00, speaker cables, interconnects, and power cords are the shunata research z-tron anacondas, the best from shunata research with the shunata cable lifts off the floor, also he has a awsome looking two componet oppo 95 modded by modright with tubes in the out board power supply and the spinner as well, and a turn-table that I cannot remember what it is, and the magico Q-3 speakers, cheers.

Melbguy1, I agree with you post, I really do not undestand why he bought what he has, like I said, he is loaded with money, It was not my place to tell him this, I believe that would be rude, or maybe arragant?, it's easy to tell folks here on audiogon, they are on a screen, but when you are in someones house as a guest, to me, it's different, now if he pleaded with me my opinion, well then, that's a whole different matter, cheers.

I cannot understand as to why the subject I posted did not have value, Instead I caught shitt for the post I got from Tara labs web-site!, concering the Tara labs generation 3 conductors, I thought I was bringing something to the table here for the public!, I did not know that the real world was this EVIL!

Welcome to the thread Sabai, since all of us are getting or going to get some Furutech GTX-D recepticles, can you elaborate on your exsperince here for us?, I have a few questions I hope you do not mind answering, Did you get the pre-cooked version?, How long is the burn-in proccess on a furutech GTX-D after the pre-cooked or without all to gether pre-cooked after installment into the wall for system play back?, another question, in general, will you tell of us of some sound details of the Rhodium version that you have?, Thankyou.

Hi Misternice, Are you saying that The Furutech GTX-D Gold recepticles take a week to sound great without the cooking proccess that Chris Van Hause does their at Vh-audio?, This is cool, all of us will have the GTX-D gold outlets!, tell us here what your impressions are with one furutech GTX-D gold, I bet it will get a little better over another week or so?, interesting the power cords you have mentioned I have no exsperience with, yeah, tell us about them when you can, that's what we all are friends for is to learn off each other, BTW, I do not like brightness ina system myself, really, I cannot even remeber when that has happened last in any given system I have owned in many years, my biggest problem I hate that I do not have, but have had before with a couple of cd-players was the imeadiate in your face, up-front sound stage, I call this a forward presatation, That my friend is a big no,no, here in my house, if any given componet does that on my cables, amp, speakers, well then, that componet is gone!, two componets come to mind that I have owned that fit that bill, The Cary cd-500 up sampling solid state cd-player and the Ayon cd-2s up sampling tube cd-player, cheers.

Melbguy1, Talking about researching, check out the Krell reference Evolution 707 proccessor and all the reviews, this unit for 2-channel reference sound reproduction is second to only the krell Evolution two pre-amp, slighly not quite as good, but close to what a few users of the 707 has been telling me on my new Krell pre-amps thread their on the amps forum here on audiogon, man, the 707 is huge!, $30,000,00 to $35,000.00 new, used market around $13,000.00 to $15,000.00, not a bad target if I can be swayed to go active pre-amps, tell me what your impressions of all you read about this unit, it's crazy to me as to why all the reviewers believe no other brand pre-amp comes close to the performance at the time of the reviews, I know, I know, reviewers do not know our preference in sound, just a good bassis to go from.

Melbguy1, That is what i am talking about, useing the 707 for two channel audio because all other krell pre-amps ever made are not as good, with the exception of the krell Evo two pre-amp that sold new retail for $50,000.00. all the channels are equal in the 707, Matjet said he runs his 707 with proccesor section off on the unit, turns on analog two channel, and bam!, He said he will never sale his unit!, I was talking about the 707 may be a fit for my system.

Thankyou misternice, I do know that the Furutech GTX-D Gold or Rhodium outlets do need some time to burn-in, however, I do not believe I have ever asked Chris Vanhause their at vh-audio how long they take?

Tboooe, are you getting any Furutech GTX-D Gold or Rhodium outlets?

Hi Tboooe, I do not believe the furutech GTX-D Gold will ever soften anything up in sound, The Rhodium does have a slight edge in detail with a little more ump in the bass, but with this comes an imeadiate sound, more forward, these discriptions is what Chris Vanhause of vh-Audio has told me on the phone, and I asked his reccomendation for my system, he said use all Furutech GTX-D Gold, if you look back at some of the other post, you can see that Chris told Melbguy1 the same thing he told me, and you can see that Melbguy1 also said Chris said that their is a slight difference between the two, Rhodium and Gold, Chris has told me to use The Rhodium on tubey sounding equipment, or tube amps or pre-amps, but on tube cd-players, Chris said stick to the Gold for that as well, that Is why I am getting two GTX-D Gold outlets,In your situation, I would still call Chris there at vh-Audio and ask him his recommendation, it may turn out that you do need the Rhodium? cheers.

Tboooe, yes, Melbguy1 does have quite the system, I have known him over the last couple of years or so, believe me, he always keeps a bad ass system one way or the other, I know his past equipment, and seen how his tast in sound has changed over time slightly,The Magico speakers is the first time I have seen him buy American audio, I'm sure he has had some in the past that I do not know about, maybe he will tell us all the American audio he has ever owned, would be a great read, cheers.

thanyou Sts, so in your opinon, the furutech should fit then.

Hi sabai, can you list your componet equipment so I can get a grip as to why a Rhodium outlet sounds better to you?, I have not made my purchase yet, so your info is critical, remember, I will not stand for a forward sound,Imeadiate, in my face, etc..., that is whats said of rhoduim products, if your equipment is laid back by nature, than yes, Rhodium is a good fit.

Misternice, your reasons sound very valid to me, as a matter of fact, I do not need anymore resolution my self, My sound is far from analitical, However, I stride to keep it that way, great post you did, made alot of sence.

Sabai, Hi, did you get my last post to you, you were helpful, and I was hoping you could respond to my last post to you?

Hi Calvinj, I did not want to post this on the thread where I normally find you, I am glad you adjusted you claasified sales of your cable, However, This is real important what I am about to tell you here, The model, The one that you are selling is a version that has only the componet ground, which is 100% inferrior to the model, The one with HFX grounding station, The HFX grounding station has componet grounding and floats the shield, and filters RFI/EMI through the ceralex material inside the grounding station, the componet grounding scheme you had with your cable does not have ceralex, nor does it filter RFI/EMI, That box that you had was the cheapest atternative Tara labs presented back years ago if a customer could not afford the box that said, Tara labs, This box is not a HFX grounding station, The original grounding station that said Tara Labs on it only was a grounding station with less Ceralex material inside and without componet grounding capabilitys, so there were 3 versions of the grounding stations for this cable, what I am also saying is that you never heard the performance capability of the Tara Model called, The One, no where near it's potential!

calvinj, you are asking a fair price for your version of the Tara labs, The One interconnect, but your description of your title of what it is is NOT Correct, this is NOT a ISM on board cable, the ISM on board means small amounts of ceralex inside of a cylinder that is on each interconnect is ON the cable its self, in the signal path, the correction on your title should read, The One interconnect with componet grounding, that is it, thats what it is, hope this helps.

Thankyou so much for your reply, I am confused here, I am happy that I have not made my purchase yet, I will Pm you as you asked, so be looking for the mail, Confused is because Chris Vanhause clearly has stated that the Rhodium is best for tube amps and pre-amps, Do you know in your opinon, Is Rhodium better sounding to you on top solid state equipment?, You have been a great asset to us all, nothing like asking those who have lived with a product over time, Reply when you can, Happy listening.

calvinj, no, not yet, thanks for reminding me, I will today, did you look a few post up from these, I have a couple of post there for you here on this thread, happy listening.

Hi everyone, Did you guys see the Krell FPB 750 mcx mono blocks that just came up for sale on audiogon?, The asking price is a STEAL!, I know, The Value of my Krell 700cx went up a good bit!, If this guy knew the real value of what he has, He would be getting atleast $17,000.00 for these, They are extremely Rare to EVER see on the used market, how do I know, LOL!, I have never seen any for sale on the used market untill now, or I would have bought these in April 2012 when I had the money!, there is not that much difference in sound, however the sound stage is bigger if you go stock to stock between the monos and stereo version, cheers.

Hi sabai, I E-mailed you as requested, check your mail.

Melbguy1, I believe sabai is sharring his exsperience with IEC's, which BTW are made different than the recepticles, The GTX-D as you said is pure copper at the base metal, then plated with Rhodium or gold, David, to mass the confussion more, I researched these recepticles more on audiogon past threads of the GTX-D recepticles, there seemed to be alot of members that had gold and went to Rhodium with satisfying results, However, the ones that did had tube equipment, to bad we cannot rent these things like cables and find whats best for our paticular systems, that would be great wouldnt it david?